(January 8, 2012 at 3:32 pm)amkerman Wrote:Quote:I can't make any sense of it. Not sure if you're trying to say 'things exist outside of our knowledge' or if you're trying to say something else. I can't make sense of what you're saying and I've debated many crazies.
The part I bolded was why I thought you were conflating perception and knowledge. I wasn't. I am saying exactly what you originally stated, "things which exist beyond your perception".
Let's just stick with the argument Ace. I didn't mean to offend you. Do you understand that part now?
'Knowledge' can mean current understanding. Doesn't necessarily mean absolute knowledge. Perception gives a level of current understanding, like I can sense the texture of my coffee cup and detect it's weight.
Thing is, I still don't know what point it is you're trying to make. You've lost me.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.