RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
January 9, 2012 at 4:33 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2012 at 4:34 pm by Godscreated.)
(January 9, 2012 at 3:29 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote:(January 9, 2012 at 3:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: Freewill
If freewill exists, then God is not all knowing or all powerful, or omnipresent.
Either god is limited or he is unlimited.
so, the questions should be asked:
"Can I do something that god cannot know about"
If yes then freewill exists and god is limited. If no then everything that you have done was pre planned by God before the creation.
"Can I do something that god cannot stop?"
If yes then freewill exists and god is limited. If no then everything that you have done was pre planned by God before the creation.
If god knows everything, then he knew everything that would ever happen before he even created the universe. This means that not only was every single thing planned by this god, but that it ALREADY happened once already, since God has already experienced the future.
this means that God was well aware that Adam and Eve would eat from the tree, yet he put the tree there anyways.
Was he expecting a different result? Of course not. this is not consistent with the way we view this deity. Who wants to worship a stupid deity? god putting a tree of dangerous knowledge in the midst of ignorant humans and expecting them to control themelves isnt smart. You might as well place a cobra in the playpen of the child and blame the child for being bitten.
God WANTED Adam and Eve to eat the fruit.
Did god know that Lucifer would become a fallen angel before he created him? If he was all knowing, then yes. God knew Satan would be loosed upon the world if he created him as an angel, yet he created him anyways. Why? Because God obviously WANTED satan to do what he does. Not only that, but God, pre-knowing everything in existence, already gone through all of eternities existence at least ONCE before he created the universe.
I know before I even write the first word to you that you will disagree with what I say, now does that make me all knowing, not in the least. Does that mean because of this knowledge it was pre-planned by me that you would disagree, I do not think so. God knew what would happen and yet gave man freewill, God also planned to sacrifice his Son for the redemption of man before he created, this plan was the only thing that was predestined, this is the love God has for man kind. Yes, because of God's nature you can reject him and he will not make you believe, this is freewill. Outside of choosing to believe or not is not truly freewill, it is the result of your choice.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
