RE: Atheism is a religion
January 9, 2012 at 4:34 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2012 at 5:15 pm by genkaus.)
(January 9, 2012 at 10:35 am)amkerman Wrote: But genkaus. I don't believe the dictionary definition of "God" does justice to the concept. I believe the definition of "reality" better does. Am I not entitled to that? As I previously told Shell, I am the one making the argument. Proper etiquette requires I get to define the terms. Many of you have continuously refused my argument that one cannot "lack belief". It's as if simply because q dictionary has defined atheism ath way it MUST be true. Hogwash. I believe reality exists. I believe that reality is God. I believe the two words are synonyms. You must accept that definition if we are to have a proper argument.
If, on the otherhand, you want to make an argument against God, I am willing to hear it. In that case, you get to set the terms, and I will follow them.
The dictionary definition of god describes the concept as commonly understood by most people. As does the dictionary definition of of reality.
Here's the key difference between the two. "God" is always described as having a consciousness, reality is independent of and independent from any consciousness. If you conflate the two you either don't understand the meaning of god or of reality. Or both.
(January 9, 2012 at 2:13 pm)amkerman Wrote: Is everything that exists a derivative of reality?
No - a part of reality and derivatives of other parts of reality.
(January 9, 2012 at 2:13 pm)amkerman Wrote: And isn't reality not derivative nor dependent on anything else?
Nonsensical. By definition there cannot be "anything else" that is not a part of reality.
(January 9, 2012 at 2:13 pm)amkerman Wrote:
As in, reality was not created by anything?
As in, reality just is?
Yes and yes.
(January 9, 2012 at 2:13 pm)amkerman Wrote: As is, it is infallible, responsible for the creation of all, which nothing can oppose? By definition is it not both omnipotent and omnipresent?
No. Fallibility, responsibility and potency are not properties attributable to reality.