RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
January 11, 2012 at 6:54 pm
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2012 at 6:57 pm by Aegrus.)
Godschild-
You have yet to answer how free will can exist when who a person is is determined by the events and relationships in their life- events and relationships planned by god, as your post seemed to state. God sets up some people to succeed. God plans for others to fail by way of planning their entire life experience and knowing the outcome of their life. (Whether or not they accept god.)
Also- how does god not torture people, when hell is his creation and it is his choice to send people there or not? Even if people refuse to repent, they are still punished by god or his creation(s)- not by themselves. So it stands to reason that god is the one doing the torture, even if the sinner opted for it by refusing to repent.
Second: you asked me about negatives in the story of Adam and Eve. Sure.
'I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy travail; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee
This passage, of course, makes it clear that men should rule over women. I don't care why god did it to Eve, I don't think that all women forever should be punished for the sins of one person.
And then, of course, there's that women were created second, solely for the purpose of being companions of men. And then, Eve was weak-minded enough to listen to the serpent anyway.
I have humored you. Now, I expect straight answers in return. Stop thinking about how you can prove the bible right, and start wondering what is actually true.
You have yet to answer how free will can exist when who a person is is determined by the events and relationships in their life- events and relationships planned by god, as your post seemed to state. God sets up some people to succeed. God plans for others to fail by way of planning their entire life experience and knowing the outcome of their life. (Whether or not they accept god.)
Also- how does god not torture people, when hell is his creation and it is his choice to send people there or not? Even if people refuse to repent, they are still punished by god or his creation(s)- not by themselves. So it stands to reason that god is the one doing the torture, even if the sinner opted for it by refusing to repent.
Second: you asked me about negatives in the story of Adam and Eve. Sure.
'I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy travail; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee
This passage, of course, makes it clear that men should rule over women. I don't care why god did it to Eve, I don't think that all women forever should be punished for the sins of one person.
And then, of course, there's that women were created second, solely for the purpose of being companions of men. And then, Eve was weak-minded enough to listen to the serpent anyway.
I have humored you. Now, I expect straight answers in return. Stop thinking about how you can prove the bible right, and start wondering what is actually true.
What falls away is always, and is near.
Also, I am not pretending to be female, this profile picture is my wonderful girlfriend. XD