RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
January 12, 2012 at 1:05 am
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2012 at 1:24 am by Godscreated.)
Quote:(January 11, 2012 at 6:54 pm)Aegrus Wrote: Godschild-
You have yet to answer how free will can exist when who a person is is determined by the events and relationships in their life- events and relationships planned by god, as your post seemed to state. God sets up some people to succeed. God plans for others to fail by way of planning their entire life experience and knowing the outcome of their life. (Whether or not they accept god.)
Why want you read what I have stated, freewill extends to one choosing God or rejecting him. After that your choice will show up in the way you live and respond to God. Freewill has to do mostly with where you will spend eternity not necessarily throughout one's entire life.
Aegrus Wrote:Also- how does god not torture people, when hell is his creation and it is his choice to send people there or not? Even if people refuse to repent, they are still punished by god or his creation(s)- not by themselves. So it stands to reason that god is the one doing the torture, even if the sinner opted for it by refusing to repent.
How dense can people get, God does not make the choice, you do, I have and everyone will. God created hell for Lucifer and the fallen angels and those of mankind that refuse to accept his Son as their savior. Why can't you and others see this very simple concept, God made it simple so that even the simple minded like myself can understand.
Aegrus Wrote:Second: you asked me about negatives in the story of Adam and Eve. Sure.
'I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy travail; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
This passage, of course, makes it clear that men should rule over women. I don't care why god did it to Eve, I don't think that all women forever should be punished for the sins of one person.
This is the punishment for disobedience, women through out the ages have continued to sin, so the punishment remains.
Aegrus Wrote:And then, of course, there's that women were created second, solely for the purpose of being companions of men. And then, Eve was weak-minded enough to listen to the serpent anyway.
I do not know why God chose to create man first, he did and that's that, God created Eve as a companion for Adam because he wanted him to have a partner. Also, since God wanted the world to be populated Adam had to have a partner, wouldn't you think. I'll let the women on this site deal with that last part, just to let you know I never saw her as weak-minded. Besides Adam was right there with her and he fell for the same lie.
Aegrus Wrote:I have humored you. Now, I expect straight answers in return. Stop thinking about how you can prove the bible right, and start wondering what is actually true.
I gave you straight answers, I know what the scriptures say, I've studied them for a good while and I will defend them till I die, so do not tell me how I should react to scripture.
(January 10, 2012 at 11:42 pm)Forsaken Wrote:(January 10, 2012 at 11:33 pm)Godschild Wrote: Most people even some christians mistake what freewill is. Freewill does not mean you can do just what you desire when ever you want to. The freewill that God has given us is this, you have a choice to accept him or reject him. After your choice, your life will reflect your choice and God could use you to complete his will for his creation.
Then its not freewill. Brush up on your understanding of words while you at it.
G C
Remember why you hate------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j8ZMMuu7MU
It might help you to communicate.
Regards
DL
That's really dumb, first off it is a biased video, next I do not hate you or any other nonbeliever, answer me this why should I hate you, give me a reason, you must have one or you would not have posted that video, stand up and let me know.
Christianity is not about hate though I do admit that some christians come across that way and some probably do hate, that's not my call. Do not lay that stuff at my feet, you have no idea about who I am.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.