RE: Atheism is a religion
January 17, 2012 at 8:53 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2012 at 9:04 pm by Undeceived.)
(January 17, 2012 at 7:02 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(January 16, 2012 at 5:43 pm)Undeceived Wrote: Is atheism is a religion? Well, one has to analyze evolution to find out. Definition of science: what you can observe, test or demonstrate. Can you observe, test or demonstrate all six types of evolution?
Cosmic: the origin of time, space and matter. No
Chemical: all elements from H and He. No
Stellar: witnessed a star form. No
Organic: life from non-life. No
Macroevolution: one species becoming another. No. No transitional fossils or documentation of speciation involving increasing complexity.
Microevolution: Yes, but this is variation, not evolution. Genes don't gain any new info-- some just die off.
In short, evolution is a belief system, not science. You're welcome to believe any of these, or claim "we just haven't discovered it yet" but don't call it science. If it's not science, it's religion. This is cut and dry.
Explain to the rest of the class how the laryngeal nerve of the giraffe is a product of intelligent design and we'll go from there.
P.s you are just the latest in a loooong line of uninformed, self important ass clowns that have barged on to this forum spouting this bullshit like we haven't heard it all before.
So please don't be surprised when you are dismissed out of hand.
And you are of a loooong line of atheists who point to the same supposedly useless structures. There are logical reasons the nerve is that long, we just haven't discovered all of them (gee, where have I heard that argument before?) Scientists used to think the appendix was useless, and lo: it protects beneficial bacteria. Back in more primitive ages, humans probably needed that function more. What ID critics don't say is that there are multiple nerves that do take a shortened path. If the tendency is to evolve to fix these kind of problems, why was that one nerve left out? All species are described to be in their prefect niche with only the right genes kept through natural selection, and you point out the one error as being a problem for ID? What about a problem for evolution? That said, there are functions! For instance, in humans it serves as an early warning to get medical care. Diseases that would be hidden deep in the chest are revealed through speech and throat problems. In that case, how lucky we were NOT to receive a nerve-shortcut mutation. Or maybe.. just maybe God was looking out for us.
This site describes it more scientifically:
http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/sho...hp/id/1507
It quotes, "The path of the RLN allows it to give off filaments to the heart, to the mucous membranes and to the muscles of the trachea along the way to the larynx," and goes on to describe the nerve's uses.
If you want an ID by God standpoint:
http://antiochapologetics.blogspot.com/2...affes.html