(January 27, 2012 at 4:46 pm)Shell B Wrote:(January 27, 2012 at 4:28 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Would you support a woman being able to chose wether a man she is having sex with can be sterile or not?
What if the woman wants a baby with that man, but he got fixed in the past? Should she be able to force him to become fertile again?
On the opposite end, should a woman who wishes to not become pregnant have her say so in wether a man can be sterilized or not?
Its not as biased as most people make it seem.
If a man can force a woman to carry a baby she DOESNT want to term for the mans benefit, then clearly it would also be just as fair to allow the woman to force a man to become sterile if she wishes not to become pregnant.
In the politest tone possible, did you think about any of that as it relates to what we are talking about before you wrote it?
A. When I wrote biased, I was clearly talking about the court system and how it handles child custody and support.
B. Sterility has nothing to do with existing pregnancies. We are not talking about birth control, we are talking about pregnancy.
C. A woman can opt for birth control, so she already has a say in whether she can get pregnant or not.
D. A woman already has a say on who she fucks. Therefore, if she wants children, she can choose a man who is not sterile.
E. Never, in any way shape or form, did I say a person should be able to force another person to have any kind of surgery. To even suggest that is in some way equal to the argument I presented is fucking ludicrous.
The bottom line is that the only part of child rearing and making that is the sole responsibility of the mother is carrying the child. If she does not want to keep the child, what is the problem with the man keeping it, if he wants to. If I got pregnant -- which I never have -- and my significant other wanted to keep the baby, I did not and there was no forseeable burden to my health, I would certainly carry it, if he agreed that I would not have to raise it. Of course, that would depend on a number of other factors, but why should that discourse be completely off of the table? Seriously, a womb is not some secret magical thing. It's a fucking organ. It doesn't make someone special or above reproach. A woman can get an abortion and be wrong! Again, I am pro-choice. That doesn't make every woman who gets an abortion right. Some of them are fuckwits who use it as birth control. Some of them do it to get back at their spouses. Oh, and I never said anyone should be forced to do anything.
It wasnt my intention to assume anything. I merely pointed out some questions that never get brought up in the conversation.
Abortion is always about the woman when in reality it takes two to tango.
