RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 28, 2012 at 2:55 am
(This post was last modified: January 28, 2012 at 3:09 am by Aegrus.)
(January 28, 2012 at 1:43 am)Godschild Wrote:(January 28, 2012 at 12:36 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(January 28, 2012 at 12:27 am)Godschild Wrote: Just a couple of things for now, I use to fish in Florida and we caught fresh water fish and salt water fish in the same waters, called brackish waters, a mixture of fresh and salt water.
SOME fish can survive in brackish waters. A great many more cannot.
Somehow you managed to gloss over all of the other objections to your myth, and present us with this half-assed excuse for an apology. Fail.
(January 28, 2012 at 12:27 am)Godschild Wrote: Also many wooden boats are built that are not sealed until they are put in the water. There the wood swells and completely seals the boat. Also Noah sealed the ark.
Let's make this perfectly clear - nobody, not before the alleged story of Noah, or since, has made an all-wooden boat of that size that was sea-worthy.
What happened to Noah's alleged advanced ark-building technology? Hmmm?
No one left to share it with, sons are rarely interested in following dad into ship building. It also seems Noah was more interested in grapes.
As far as fish are concerned you're right, but then I was not talking about all fish. We know for sure that the whales tolerate fresh water and brackish water is no problem for them. Models of the ark have shown it to be more than sea worthy, you nor anyone can say the ark was not sea worthy because of a few measurements given. Just the placement of a load can make a ship more sea worthy in storms.
Models of the Ark no doubt are seaworthy, because they're small and they're made of wood. Therefore they float. But according to F=MA, the greater a mass, the greater the force on an object. You can use the formula, or simple logic to come to that conclusion. The point is that the bigger something is, the easier it breaks. So unless there have been 1:1 scale models of the Ark built which have been successfully tested to survive in open seas for eighty days, I wouldn't put too much stock in models.
I think someone needs to tell Godschild that some aquatic life being able to survive in brackish waters does not mean that the great barrier reef can survive in similar conditions.
Also, the wind blows because warmer, less dense (lighter) air (in which molecules have more energy, move faster, and spread out more) rises, and cooler, denser (heavier) air (less energy, thus less particle movement and closer clumping) falls, creating suction and by extension wind.
(January 26, 2012 at 7:00 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: That's why they invoke miracles to explain all the inconsistencies away. I've even heard it claimed that perhaps God shrunk the animals and put them into a deep sleep in order to allow them all to fit aboard the ark and survive for so long without needing to eat. Of course that still doesn't explain all the other problems with the entire story.
Not to mention it doesn't mention animals sleeping deeply or decreasing in size in the bible. Hell, if they want to start making things up at random, what's to stop anyone from making things up? I'll go first.
God actually made a volcano out of water, but some of the water was still lava even though it was water. Don't argue with me, just listen and don't be ignorant.

So the not-lava mixing with the water created a zone of perfect temperature for every species, and both fish and animals could breath there because god said so. And then Chuck Norris punched the moon, just because. But the man on the moon got really pissed off, and told god to kill Chuck Norris.
Then, god said, "Well, I can't kill Chuck Norris, he'd punch me to death, because my sacred cabbage is in the blue toilet." So god turned Chuck Norris in to Jesus, and Jesus sucked all of the water from the Earth in to his vagina, and the flood ended.
What falls away is always, and is near.
Also, I am not pretending to be female, this profile picture is my wonderful girlfriend. XD