RE: Jaysus effin' Christ!! Santorum on abortion due to rape
January 28, 2012 at 5:13 pm
(This post was last modified: January 28, 2012 at 5:22 pm by Shell B.)
(January 28, 2012 at 1:24 am)aleialoura Wrote: Too bad they can't transfer the fetus into the man. Ever carried a baby to term?
The drama team can stop acting like I said anyone should be forced to do anything and read it the way it was written -- father's rights should have some consideration.
Now, my ever carrying a baby to term is irrelevent.
I don't need a list of potential side effects. I'm a 29-year-old women with five sisters, nine nieces and nephews and a midwife for a sister. I understand you consider yourself an expert on the topic and you certainly know something of it. However, I'm talking about opinions on parent's rights, not forcing people to carry babies. Furthermore, those are potential side effects. Many women carry babies with no permanent damage. Both of my grandmothers had ten children and one died of an aneurism and the other of cancer. Both died as old women. Hmmmm . . .
Quote:If a man wants his baby, he needs to find a willing host for his fetus. Most of the girls having elective abortions are quite young. The fathers of these children vary in age, but I rarely see a woman over 25. These girls are victims of a society that refuses to responsibly educate them about safe-sex practices. From the really young ones (13-18) I often hear things like, "I didn't know.." or my favorite, "I didn't know it could happen on my first time."
This is all irrelevant. When I say, make little girls carry babies to term against their will, you can educate me on the ills of that. The bottom line is that I never said women should be "forced" to carry to term. I certainly never said girls should.
Quote:No you want them to be victims of these happy-hard on putzes who decide they want the fruits of a woman's womb, for whatever reason? The boy who impregnated the girl might want the child, but he doesn't have to have his body invaded so intensely for 40 weeks of his life, and then give birth to a baby that he doesn't want, that he isn't ready to love. He gets to sit there and wait. Scratch his balls, drink his beer, keep his dignity, remain in control of his bowels. The mother bears all the burden, and that's fair to you? As a woman... really?
Yeah, because I said all of that. Give it a rest for fuck's sake. To paraphrase what I said, if a man wants to keep the kid and is willing to let the mother sign over parents rights and not help . . . there should be some discussion. If she isn't ready to have a child, she can give it to the father. I realize it is a pet habit for extremist to go, "Holy fuck! You're a woman and you want 12-year-olds to carry rapist's babies!" and other such nonsense. However, I am relatively certain you have the mental capacity to realize that is not at all what I said, Alei. Also, you are presenting all men as ball scratching beer drinkers. Yeah, I'm relatively certain that is not what my father did when I was born.
Quote:Some men do see abortions as murdering a human life. Those men should refrain from sticking their unprotected dick into women who aren't ready for a baby, and the government of every state, and the federal government should stop funding public schools who are unwilling to make birth control a topic of health class/readily available through the school nurse.
Yeah, because that is how it always goes down. What is it with people on the extreme ends of this debate? They could have agreed to get pregnant and then she flakes. Has that never happened where you work or is only just Christian teen mothers and girls whose boyfriends sat outside scratching their balls and getting drunk while their girlfriend had an abortion? They're all victims? Bullshit!
And . . . again . . . I have never said women should be forced to carry a baby. I am saying there should be an option for her to sign over parental rights to the father at birth to make it possible for a man to get full custody of a baby a mom does not want right at birth. I know, it's so evil of me.
(January 28, 2012 at 1:24 am)aleialoura Wrote: No you want them to be victims of these happy-hard on putzes who decide they want the fruits of a woman's womb, for whatever reason?
Oh, and this demands comment. The fruits of a woman's womb for whatever reason? What are you a uterine supremacist? You need sperm too. And . . . how about so he can have his child? Whatever reason? Seriously. I don't want to speculate, but I can only assume your dad isn't the cat's meow. I just can't understand why you would minimize a father's role in a child's life so much. It baffles me. My dad is the fucking man.
