(January 30, 2012 at 2:16 pm)genkaus Wrote:The exact same thing can be said. How do you know he lied? Did anyone say he was lying?(January 30, 2012 at 11:25 am)Zakir_250 Wrote:Why would being a king make him reliable? And how do you know he had no reason to lie? Did anyone cross-examine him? If yes, I'd like to see those transcripts. If no, then you have no evidence for his reliability.(January 30, 2012 at 12:00 am)genkaus Wrote:It's a reliable witness though. It's the king, someone who has no reason to lie.(January 29, 2012 at 7:32 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote:(January 29, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Hitchslap Wrote: You think you're winning? when you ignore posters replies, ignore counter-responses and keep asserting more shit on top of stinkier shit? You didnt come here to debate or even think, you care here to prosthelytize and spew out logical fallacies hoping to convert. You make me sick with your comment about seing "fans of science" arent you not? Are you not using a computer? made by science? are you not trying to refute anything thats not Islam with Pseudoscience? haha winning...quit while you're behind, pal. Bald assertions and holy books are not evidences of supernatural claims or gods, you should know that by now.I would never trick people to convert. It's against my religion. All I'm doing is providing evidence and waiting for a debate. Whereas people here are insulting my Prophet and god. Also the Bible even though I don't believe in it.
This particular piece-of-shit evidence has been refuted before. One person, just one, saying that he saw the moon split. There is no indication that he said anything like that before he met the Muslim pilgrim. And apparently, he saw the moon split and failed to awaken every person he could to see the split as well.
If this witness was produced in the court of law, he'd be laughed out of there. Try to reply for once.
Again, I ask; Is Muhammad a liar, lunatic or prophet?
And Muhammad was telling lies. However, as I have no way of examining his state of mind when he was telling them, I cannot say whether he himself truly believed them or not. Therefore, I cannot say whether he is a liar or a lunatic.
Do You see how logic works? Muhammad wasn't telling lies because he was trustworthy and even his enemies trusted him. Why would a innocent man lie about an angel? for fame? for power? for money? Well according to the authentic hadiths, he rejected power and money. He was a very nice man. This is why he is called to mankind.