Democracy, religion, women and equality. Justice demands affirmative action.

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Love each other, do unto others as we do for ourselves.
You're right that racism and other "isms" cause minorities to fall down the economic ladder. Until people quit looking at each other like their different species then there will be no change. Government laws might hold discrimination back to a point but, it will never change minds. People on both sides of this problem must forgive before true progress can be made, both sides see that they have become neglected. Socialism "government forced actions" never cured this problem and in some countries things got worse. Until everyone comes to a point of respect for others that they have for themselves, equality will never happen. In Christianity when men learn to love the church as Christ loves the church and then love their wives as they love the church, things will be better in the christian world. So now what will the secular world offer as a solution. I will say that I do not expect this to happen in the christian church and that is a very bad thing, Christ will judge his church about this.

GC, you started sounding really intelligent at first, then , as usual...you veered off course and crashed the car into the ditch.

Hitstorically speaking, those who are christian tended to be the most hateful and racist. Of course they were, verse, upon verse, upon verse of Jehovah demanding racial genocide, to not be equally yoked with non-believers, to actively seek out and kill witches and homosexuals, to stone your children to death if they refuse to worship Yahweh...examples...and examples galore.

As far as socialism, I ask that you do some more homework. Not all socialism is "government forced". there is such a thing as left libertarianism which merely disposes of the government, and that socialism would come about naturally without force.

Also, I must point out that 90% of the churches that are in my area are all segregated. You got your black churches here, your white churches there...all of the protestant churches in my area are segregated. The only INTEGRATED churches I have seen around here are the Catholic church, and that unitarian church WAAAAYYYYY out in Kitty Hawk NC.

Sounds a bit like what the Soviet's use to claim, use government to set up a socialistic society and then the government walks out of the picture and leave behind a perfect society, good luck with that. Human nature will never allow for this, social equality is not in the picture for those who have, they do not want to give up what they believe is theirs. Just as the Soviet leaders did not want to give up their power, neither will anyone who has it, besides the power they have is given to them by the rest of society.

yup...its the only problem. The best way for it to work is to dump all of the govt right then and there with no moving towards it...you just jump right to it.

This basically will cause a revolution, something Im not so sure about. I would rather go in steps, but people are not going to want to give up their big houses and big bank accounts.

The socviets screwed up so many lib left societies I am unable to count them all. Some they corrupted from the inside, some they just flat out invaded.

There are so many different opinions on socialism and how it should work that it never can, in a socialistic society opinions are out and that goes against human nature. There is no way to have a society that goes against human nature and it work unless force is used and even then we see how ineffective that can be with the changes in the Middle East.