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[reverendjeremiah]

There are so many different opinions on socialism

True, but the two main thoughts on socialism that all others branch out from are thus: Authoritarian or libertarian. One tells everyone what to do, the other tries to allow for maximum freedom. So the soviets were what George Orwell called "Right wing socialists", because they were very authoritarian. an example of a non-authoritarian socialism would be, just for a quick example, a hippie commune. There are many others on both sides of the authoritarian argument.

some socialists name them differently, but not all:

Communist = authoritarian commune
Cooperative = non-authoritarian commune

and how it should work that it never can,

Not true either. China has been quite successful at socialism, yet they are authoritarian as hell, and they have now integrated what i consider some of the worst parts of capitalism as well. Northern Europe, on the other hand, keep slowly working their way towards a coopoerative system of anti-authoritarian likes. All countries have their moments of ups and downs.

in a socialistic society opinions are out and that goes against human nature.

It depends on the nature of the commune and the nature of the opinion.

Example: The commune that the followers of Jesus set up right after his crucifixion can easily be described as an authoritarian theocratic commune. All members had to sell their possessions and had to surrender the money to the church leaders. If they didnt, they were killed right on the spot. The bible says that God killed the people, or made them "give up the ghost". this could be translated however you like, but the fact is they were killed for trying to hold back some of their money from the commune. Their opinion on how to run a commune, regardless of wether god existed or not, did not succeede because we no longer see it today.

Another example would be the indiginous peoples of the Nordic lands called the "Sami". this commune started long before any meaningful borders of "Norway", "Denmark", etc... where ever created. They have petroglyphs dating back as far as 10,000 bc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people

They have survived the bubonic plague, the Nazi's, the rise of capitalism, and they are still going strong. they have a very simple and sometimes revolving leadership, so they are very close to being anarcho-primitive in their political structure. In otherwords they are anti-authoritarian cooperatists.

There is no way to have a society that goes against human nature and it work unless force is used and even then we see how ineffective that can be with the changes in the Middle East.

I keep hearing that same argument again and again. That people are greedy and hateful, and therefore must have a greedy and hateful government.

Why not ask the Sami about that? They seem to have successfully snubbed the current idea of humanity and government, and they are still going strong.