RE: Islam true religion?
February 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm
(This post was last modified: February 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm by Mister Agenda.)
Zakir, in order for a prediction to be impressive, you have to know it was made before the occurrence. Someone predicting something happening in a book and it happening later on in the same book isn't impressive. You have to assume it's true in the first place to be impressed by it. Lots of religions claim impressive predictions and they all tend to suffer from this same flaw.
Before the end of this sentence I am going to spell a word backwards, do you kniht that requires a direct line to Allah? In the year after the hurricane in southern part of the northern continent, a great wave will kill many thousands in the East. A little cryptic, but it would be kind of impressive if we could establish details like I made it before Katrina and the Boxing Day Tsunami, and I didn't write so many cryptic predictions that one of them was like to come true just from chance. We have to have good reason to believe it was a prophecy being written and not history couched in the language of prophecy. There's a reason why skepticism has risen in this age where it's easy to check facts. People tend to embellish or get details wrong when they repeat stories they've heard, no ill intent required, it's human nature. The evidence in the Qur'an is hearsay: some people who lived a long time ago had an oral tradition, when it was written down it became possible to make sure it was copied consistently but before that all that was available was memory and good intentions...and a desire to convince people the prophet was the greatest man who ever lived. It's a perfect recipe for exagerration.
And I want your own thoughts on the matter. I want you to make your own case. You don't see me linking to 'whypropheciesinthekoranarefalse.com' instead of speaking for myself. I would like the same courtesy. My position is that we have no way of knowing if those prophecies were made before the fact. Therefore I can dismiss them unless you can provide evidence that they were made before the fact and that the prophesied event really took place.
Before the end of this sentence I am going to spell a word backwards, do you kniht that requires a direct line to Allah? In the year after the hurricane in southern part of the northern continent, a great wave will kill many thousands in the East. A little cryptic, but it would be kind of impressive if we could establish details like I made it before Katrina and the Boxing Day Tsunami, and I didn't write so many cryptic predictions that one of them was like to come true just from chance. We have to have good reason to believe it was a prophecy being written and not history couched in the language of prophecy. There's a reason why skepticism has risen in this age where it's easy to check facts. People tend to embellish or get details wrong when they repeat stories they've heard, no ill intent required, it's human nature. The evidence in the Qur'an is hearsay: some people who lived a long time ago had an oral tradition, when it was written down it became possible to make sure it was copied consistently but before that all that was available was memory and good intentions...and a desire to convince people the prophet was the greatest man who ever lived. It's a perfect recipe for exagerration.
(February 1, 2012 at 11:48 am)Zakir_250 Wrote: I want your replies to the prophecies I just posted. As for this post, I will respond later.
And I want your own thoughts on the matter. I want you to make your own case. You don't see me linking to 'whypropheciesinthekoranarefalse.com' instead of speaking for myself. I would like the same courtesy. My position is that we have no way of knowing if those prophecies were made before the fact. Therefore I can dismiss them unless you can provide evidence that they were made before the fact and that the prophesied event really took place.
