(January 28, 2012 at 10:43 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: However, I want to debate with Atheists on here about why they don't accept Islam.
OK, before we even crack open the Koran or review what Muslim apologetics has to say, here's what Islam claims right out of the gate:
Islam summed up in 7 words: Some guy claimed God spoke to him.
That's it. Go to your local insane asylum and you'll likely find a dozen or so inmates who can offer you the same story with just as much evidence as Muhammad did.
I reject Mormonism and Christianity as well, but at least they offer a much more slick package. Christianity has a lot of forged documents, bogus eye-witness accounts, folklore passed off as history and an appeal to antiquity with the church allegedly established by those who personally knew Jesus and saw his miracles. Mormonism is a bit more crude but it has bogus eye-witness accounts and golden plates that nobody ever saw. I reject both as absurd but I can at least understand how the unwary can get taken in by it all.
Islam has none of these things to support it. But it gets even shakier than that. It claims that Judaism and Christianity somehow managed to get it all wrong. And somehow Allah's solution was wait about six centuries, talk to some guy in another country, have the angel Gabriel speak to him while he was alone and nobody could witness it, gave him not a shred of evidence, and somehow that was going to fix the problem.
But wait, it gets even better.
You see, it turns out that Jesus was never the Son of God or a intercessor to the divine as Christians believe. The dastardly heretic Paul managed to get the Christians who knew and followed Jesus to forget all Jesus taught them and to worship Jesus instead. All within years after Jesus flew up into the sky. Sure, that's a likely story.
And still there's more.
You see, Islam takes special pleading to heights not seen with any other religion and that's saying a lot. It turns out that Muhammad knew Jesus better than the Christians he heard about Jesus from. The Christians say Jesus is the intercessor with the divine. The Muslims say Jesus never claimed any such thing and admonished us to have a direct relationship with God. Now who should I believe? The people who are part of the church established by those who personally knew Jesus or some guy who came along six centuries later in a different country who had nothing to go on but what he heard from the very people he says got it all wrong!
I hope this helps you understand why those who are not indoctrinated have trouble taking Islamic claims seriously.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
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... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
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... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
