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Democracy, religion, women and equality. Justice demands affirmative action.
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RE: Democracy, religion, women and equality. Justice demands affirmative action.
GC Wrote:where many moral laws would not exist,

rev.j Wrote:What do you mean by "moral" laws? Do you mean religious beliefs in being moral? I must point out who I am talking to. Someone who considers worshipping Jesus as part of a morality system. You have to be much more descriptive on this term.

OK, IMO religion can not exist in a true socialist society, people would be at odds with each other, if for no other reason than a moral code of law.

GC Wrote:where there is no creative incentives,

rev.j Wrote:I have no idea what you are talking about. Creativity exists regardless of capitalism or not. Unless you mean to tell me that you never do anything unless there is profit involved in it

No, that's not what I mean, I do things and never look to profit from them, creative or not. Some however earn a living on being creative and that earning is subjective to those who are willing to or not willing to pay for said creative work i.e. a painting. So if one has to deal with the subjective does this not go against a socialistic society where ideas are discouraged.

GC Wrote:in general a system that does not reward people for most anything in life,

rev.j Wrote:Isn't a shared survival enough? Must we place ourselves on the backs of others? Is the reward to be superior to your fellow beings? So if I have a million more than you then I should be given preference for survival compared to you and your children? If you honestly feel this way, then clearly you accept that the likes of Richard Dawkins is much more better than you, and you deserve to give him respect. Surely you dont believe this. You are merely picking and chosing, and there is nothing universal about this system. What if I am good at being a thief? then surely I should enjoy the rewards? If I am good at finding ways to deny insurance services to people, then surely you think I deserve to enjoy the benefits of the money I helped keep.

No,no and no, shared survival, like I said mundane. Answering your next three questions, I believe in an equal opportunity for all and for those who do not take advantage only have themselves to blame, all societies will have to carry some, the mentally ill, physically disable, criminals and ect. I believe all are created equal and no one should be revered above another, but all should be respected unless they do something that deems otherwise. Being a thief or denying people insurance they deserve (which by the way would not exist in a social system) would be a crime and not rewarded. Though it seems to be that way in this country at times, I mean rewarded.

GC Wrote:where success in measured in the mundane. A purely boring life.

rev.j Wrote:So MONEY=success? And without success, then you have a boring life? I disagree 100% and consider your view of society and life to be dismal.

Money does not always necessitate success, and yes life without achievements would be a bit boring.

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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Democracy, religion, women and equality. Justice demands affirmative action. - by Godschild - February 1, 2012 at 8:16 pm

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