(February 3, 2012 at 6:19 pm)Godschild Wrote: Your understanding of the sacrifice of Christ is not correct, man did not sacrifice Christ, God the Father did, man murdered Christ, man had no intention of sacrificing Him all they wanted was to shut Him up, He was ruining the cozy life of the priest. Only the Father could have sacrificed Christ His Son, the Father was the one who was suffering because of Christ's sacrifice, man became the beneficiary of the sacrifice God made.
I'm sorry Godschild your responses are far to absurd to waste my time on.
Of course the "sacrifice" of Christ would have been God's going. But that actually makes matters far worse!
This means that this was God's PLANNED solution to his problems.
What kind of a supposedly all-wise couldn't come up with a better plan to save humanity than to have mortal men nail his son to a pole?
In fact, if it was God's planned solution to the problem from the get-go (which it would have had to have been) then mankind didn't even have any choice in the matter. They would have no choice but to nail Jesus to the pole just as this God had planned. That would have all been determined even before Jesus was born of a virgin.
It makes absolutely no sense at all that this was "God's Plan".
Moreover, who would God have been sacrificing his son to?
What was the whole deal with blood sacrifices in the first place? They started out early in the New Testament as something men needed to do to appease God in order to atone their sins. So now we have this God appeasing himself by having men nail his son to a pole?
That's sicker than sick!
The religion is so utterly foolish that it can't be made to make sense no matter how hard you try.
Judaism and Islam are stupid enough. Christianity its beyond stupid. It's utterly insane.
It truly isn't even worth talking about as a possible candidate for the behavior of a supposedly all-wise being. It's simply far too stupid.
It makes no sense that a God would "Sacrifice His Own Son" unto himself just so he can forgive people of their sins.
To be perfectly honest with you, IMHO, this religion is so utterly stupid that the greatest mystery associated with it is the mystery of how any sentient human being can be gullible enough to believe it.
Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!