RE: Islam true religion?
February 5, 2012 at 1:00 am
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2012 at 1:02 am by brotherlylove.)
(February 4, 2012 at 11:19 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote:(February 4, 2012 at 10:52 pm)brotherlylove Wrote:The missionaries are lying to you. P52 is the earliest. This is from Wikipedia, "Although Rylands \mathfrak{P}52 is generally accepted as the earliest extant record of a canonical New Testament text,[2] the dating of the papyrus is by no means the subject of consensus among critical scholars."(February 4, 2012 at 9:46 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Quanity isn't the issue. It's quality. E.g. P52 manuscript has only 4 verses or sometihng and it can't be trusted as reliable. Also there are disputed verses like 1 John 5:7.
Firstly, P52 isnt the earliest..we have the lukan papyrus, the magdelane papyrus, and fragment 7Q5 which are earlier, some in the 1st century. Second, the manuscript evidence for the bible is far superior to the Quran. Most of the manuscripts for the Quran were compiled in the 9th century, and the very oldest ones came 200 years are Muhammeds death in 790 AD. So, if these are your standards you can't trust the Quran either. Yes some do dispute 1 John 5:7 and some don't. If you want to talk about corruption you might want to note that Muhammed plagerized the apocryphal infancy gospels of thomas by including the stories of Jesus making birds out of clay into the Quran among other things. He also plagerized the Talmud and the apocrypha of the life of adam:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_and_the_Quran
Muhammad didn't plagerize from anything. If he did, then why did he leave out errors from Bible? E.g. the creation story or the Noah's flood being global. Your false Jesus is plagerized from Pagans.
The missionaries are lying to you. P52 is the earliest. This is from Wikipedia, "Although Rylands \mathfrak{P}52 is generally accepted as the earliest extant record of a canonical New Testament text,[2] the dating of the papyrus is by no means the subject of consensus among critical scholars."
There are many scholars that say otherwise, about the dating. I notice you did not comment on the fact that there are no original manuscripts for the Quran, and the earliest ones you have are from 200 years after Muhammed. How can you criticize the bible when it has superior manuscript evidence to the Quran? That's a hypocritical doublestandard, don't you think?
I'll ask you another question. If Muhammed is a prophet, why didn't God speak to him directly like every other prophet? What is the justification that Muhammed is a prophet in the first place? Also, if you didn't know, the Quran says the world was created in six days and it talks about a global flood.
Psalm 19:1-2
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.