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Why Can't others See?
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RE: Why Can't others See?
(July 21, 2009 at 6:35 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You talk of your own wild misconception of what belief is.

Please enlighten me and define 'belief'. Nevermind I'll do it.

Noun; The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another: My belief in you is as strong as ever.
Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something: His explanation of what happened defies belief.
Something believed or accepted as true, especially a particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons.

So tell me, how is my definition of 'belief' a wild misconception?

Quote:Like many onlookers you assume belief entails extremes.

It does.

Quote: To you a Christian acting in an un Christian way is somehow subhuman..

Never had I ever said nor implied such a thing.

Quote:Mere actions do not equal full commitment, only a sign of commitment. A person could be fully committed to their belief without any outward clue to an outsider necessary.

Bullshit. If you are fully committed to a belief your actions would show it.

Quote:Doubt is a very important facet of belief. If you don't doubt everything you don't question and you take belief for granted. Say you had a wife and you loved her.. taking her for granted would be a capital offense. Weak faith is the result of not doubting. Questioning everything is vital. Testing belief is vital.

Yeah so what. This has nothing to do with believing in an underlying reality of what you profess to believe.

Believer says I believe the bible is the inerrant word of God. And in it God says he will send a person to hell if that person doesn't do 'X'. Believer does not do 'X' therefore it is valid to say believer doesn't really believe in an underlying reality of that belief, i.e. God and Hell are real and the former will send me to the latter for not doing 'X'.

THAT is the meat of my post and not what the definition of 'belief' is.

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Why Can't others See? - by Faith Tester - July 20, 2009 at 5:11 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - July 20, 2009 at 5:22 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by fr0d0 - July 20, 2009 at 5:40 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - July 20, 2009 at 6:20 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by fr0d0 - July 21, 2009 at 6:35 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - July 21, 2009 at 7:39 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Ryft - July 21, 2009 at 11:52 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by padraic - July 22, 2009 at 12:30 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Ryft - July 22, 2009 at 1:59 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - July 21, 2009 at 7:19 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by leo-rcc - July 21, 2009 at 7:39 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - July 21, 2009 at 7:42 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by leo-rcc - July 21, 2009 at 7:57 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by leo-rcc - July 21, 2009 at 8:03 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - July 21, 2009 at 8:10 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Eilonnwy - July 21, 2009 at 9:23 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Pippy - July 21, 2009 at 9:44 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Edwardo Piet - July 21, 2009 at 9:59 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by LEDO - July 21, 2009 at 5:41 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - July 21, 2009 at 6:05 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Edwardo Piet - July 21, 2009 at 6:11 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by fr0d0 - July 21, 2009 at 8:36 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Pippy - July 21, 2009 at 9:15 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by padraic - July 22, 2009 at 3:44 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Ryft - July 23, 2009 at 1:45 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - July 23, 2009 at 7:35 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Purple Rabbit - July 23, 2009 at 12:28 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Beholden - July 31, 2009 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Pippy - July 31, 2009 at 9:13 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - July 31, 2009 at 9:50 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by leo-rcc - August 1, 2009 at 9:40 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by maldives - August 2, 2009 at 1:05 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Anto Kennedy - August 2, 2009 at 5:18 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - August 2, 2009 at 5:51 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by maldives - August 3, 2009 at 2:30 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by fr0d0 - August 3, 2009 at 3:51 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - August 3, 2009 at 4:36 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - August 3, 2009 at 8:58 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - August 3, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Rhizomorph13 - August 3, 2009 at 10:59 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Anto Kennedy - August 3, 2009 at 5:19 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Rhizomorph13 - August 3, 2009 at 3:54 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by fr0d0 - August 3, 2009 at 4:58 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Rhizomorph13 - August 3, 2009 at 9:37 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - August 3, 2009 at 9:44 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Rhizomorph13 - August 3, 2009 at 11:05 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by fr0d0 - August 4, 2009 at 2:29 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Anto Kennedy - August 4, 2009 at 6:49 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Beholden - August 4, 2009 at 10:14 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Anto Kennedy - August 4, 2009 at 10:59 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 3:18 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Beholden - August 4, 2009 at 5:20 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 8:43 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Anto Kennedy - August 5, 2009 at 6:52 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by FaithAffirmed - August 6, 2009 at 11:18 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Minimalist - August 6, 2009 at 5:47 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Anto Kennedy - August 6, 2009 at 7:26 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Minimalist - August 7, 2009 at 1:29 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by loosescrews - August 7, 2009 at 2:06 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - August 8, 2009 at 3:15 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Ace Otana - August 7, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Pippy - August 7, 2009 at 9:21 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by padraic - August 8, 2009 at 12:51 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by binny - August 21, 2009 at 3:52 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by leo-rcc - August 8, 2009 at 3:05 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Dotard - August 8, 2009 at 7:03 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - August 8, 2009 at 7:18 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Minimalist - August 13, 2009 at 1:06 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Edwardo Piet - August 13, 2009 at 1:10 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Violet - August 14, 2009 at 5:07 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by dry land fish - August 16, 2009 at 9:55 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - August 17, 2009 at 2:23 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by maxbigwood - August 21, 2009 at 3:14 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2009 at 4:08 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by maxbigwood - August 21, 2009 at 4:28 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - August 22, 2009 at 3:11 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by leo-rcc - August 21, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by maxbigwood - August 21, 2009 at 4:24 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Tiberius - August 21, 2009 at 4:50 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2009 at 4:42 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Pippy - August 21, 2009 at 9:14 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2009 at 10:30 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by fr0d0 - August 22, 2009 at 3:16 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2009 at 9:49 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Pippy - August 22, 2009 at 7:17 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Edwardo Piet - August 22, 2009 at 2:43 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by padraic - August 22, 2009 at 7:56 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Amphora - August 28, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Edwardo Piet - August 28, 2009 at 6:57 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Amphora - August 28, 2009 at 7:52 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by beenthere - September 8, 2009 at 12:58 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - September 8, 2009 at 2:19 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 6:19 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - September 9, 2009 at 4:00 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by padraic - September 9, 2009 at 10:18 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Secularone - September 8, 2009 at 8:21 pm
RE: Why Can't others See? - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 4:17 am
RE: Why Can't others See? - by Kyuuketsuki - September 9, 2009 at 6:28 am

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