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Freewill of Mass Murderers
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RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers
(February 9, 2012 at 5:10 pm)Forsaken Wrote: Hitler and Stalin’s mass murders, Gunmen storming schools in USA and killing in numbers, the guy in Norway killing almost a hundred people, the serial rapists, etc, are all examples of the god given gift of freewill to humans.

My question: is preserving the "freewill" of a single mass murderer more important than god intervening and saving the thousands and millions he (mass murderer) kills? What about the torment and life of despair faced by the loved ones of the people who were killed? Human emotion will drive even the most law abiding (be it the law of the land or the unwritten norms of the society) person to contemplate revenge (thus committing a sin). Why did god build the factor of "human emotion" in us then? If freewill was his gift, then people should be able to go about doing anything they want without affecting the emotions of others.

Didn't freewill exist in the early years of the bible? Why do you see verses after verses of god "instructing" someone to do something in the old testament? According to the bible, the freewill concept was set into motion as soon as Adam and Eve committed the first sin. So the characters in the old testament clearly had freewill and god was clearly dictating over their lives. Thus, the freewill concept fails!

Adam and Eve had freewill before they sinned. Serial murderers are mentally ill and are not killing from a reasoning stand point, but a mental illness, that over rides reasoning, thus eliminating the process of freewill.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Forsaken - February 9, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Faith No More - February 9, 2012 at 5:13 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Forsaken - February 9, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Godschild - February 9, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Forsaken - February 9, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Forsaken - February 9, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 5:47 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Violet - February 9, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Rokcet Scientist - February 10, 2012 at 6:42 am
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Ace Otana - February 10, 2012 at 7:45 am
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 3:32 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Forsaken - February 10, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Minimalist - February 10, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by Tobie - February 14, 2012 at 6:21 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by jason56 - February 15, 2012 at 9:32 pm
RE: Freewill of Mass Murderers - by jason56 - February 17, 2012 at 10:38 pm

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