RE: Do animals have free Will?
February 9, 2012 at 6:14 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2012 at 6:20 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Do you think that the number of "killers without cause" in human society is proportionately higher than the number of "killers without cause" in other animals? If so, how did you determine this? So, rarely means exactly what now? Human beings are rarely serial killers, and? Serial killers are also, btw, practicing and honing their skills with every murder.
Our instinct is to not put our hands in the fire (that is, once we've felt it (soft fascination)). You've never seen an animal put itself in harms way to defend it's fellows, "overriding an instinct"? Do you want me to bury you in youtube links or can you save us both the time and trouble and acknowledge that this is not a uniquely human action? Is it not instinctual to protect members of your group, or members of your species from other species or members of other groups (or even your own?)
Why should "bad wiring" be eliminated? The killers survive and breed, the dead do not. Natural selection isn't attempting to refine something along the lines of what you believe to be "bad-wiring" GC.
(case in point, rape is how the orangs get their breeding in behind the dominant males back..so it looks like nature is selecting for rapist apes...doesn't it..lol)
Our instinct is to not put our hands in the fire (that is, once we've felt it (soft fascination)). You've never seen an animal put itself in harms way to defend it's fellows, "overriding an instinct"? Do you want me to bury you in youtube links or can you save us both the time and trouble and acknowledge that this is not a uniquely human action? Is it not instinctual to protect members of your group, or members of your species from other species or members of other groups (or even your own?)
Why should "bad wiring" be eliminated? The killers survive and breed, the dead do not. Natural selection isn't attempting to refine something along the lines of what you believe to be "bad-wiring" GC.
(case in point, rape is how the orangs get their breeding in behind the dominant males back..so it looks like nature is selecting for rapist apes...doesn't it..lol)
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