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A Non-Violent Solution?
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RE: A Non-Violent Solution?



No one ever said it was. You clearly aren't even remotely paying attention. All you're doing it blowing empty hot-air into the wind. I had already made it perfectly clear that you can't even demand that the spacetime fabric we experience in our macro lives holds in the quantum world. The very concept of space and time as we know them may totally break down. So to even continue to use the term spacetime at that level is a total misunderstanding on your part.

In fact, why do you think that Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity are completely incompatible on that scale?

Neither the scientific nor the philosophical communities would support your asinine claim of holding an absolute proof that no possible concept of spirit can possibly exist.

This is entirely your own personal opinion and persona agenda. And you're not convincing anyone.

Well, at least you certainly aren't convincing me, if you're convinced anyone else that's a terrible shame that they fell for your personal nonsense.

You clearly aren't even comprehending our modern picture of the world.

Apparently you'll living in a retro-classical mindset of a Newtonian clockwork universe with a Spinozaian God.

You're trying to maintain Einstein's God who does not place dice.

Neil's Borh already told Einstein not to tell God what to do. Yet, you're still trying to demand such classical absoluteness. As it turns out Neil's borh was right. The theorems of John Stewart Bell, brought the question into the realm of science and science showed that Borh was right and Einstein was wrong.

The classical picture is forever dead, and can never be revived. Yet for your so-called 'proof' to hold you would need a Newtonian universe that rules out any other possible structures beyond that classical picture.

You're just not keeping up with the modern knowledge of reality.




Well, either you are a total ignoramus yourself, or again you're just not paying attention. There is nothing in my picture of spirituality that is dependent upon an absence of knowledge. My entire philosophical picture is based entirely on the modern knowledge.

Moreover, you clearly can't comprehend the simplest thing.

I'm not stating that spirit "must exist".

On the contrary all I'm stating is that it can't be ruled out.

That has been my only position at any point in our conversations, and it's been your passionate position that every imaginable concept of spirit has been firmly and undeniably "ruled-out", and you claim to have "proof" of this.

You have chosen to take the impossible and absurd position.

You're claim could never stand.

To begin with, you can't claim to know the true nature of reality well enough to even make such an outrageous statement to begin with. No respectable scientist would even pretend to have such knowledge.

Secondly, you're presuming to be able to rule out any and all spiritual proposals. Again, that's just a totally naive and absurd claim on your part.

All you're doing is looking at the human ape-like brain that exists in macro spacetime and assuming that consciousness equates to spirit. Then you are demanding that since a human's ape-like brain is dependent upon the fabric of spactime as we know it, this means that any, and all, concepts of a spiritual consciousness can therefore be ruled out completely.

That's about the lamest argument I've ever heard in my life, and it would indeed be laughed out of any symposium on physics or philosophy.

In fact, conversing with you is a total waste of time. Clearly you've deluded yourself into believing that you can rule out things on a whim just by making utterly stupid demands like you do.

If you can't see the problem with that, there truly is no reason to waste time conversing with you anymore.

Go ahead and believe that you can make outrageous conclusions to rule out possible realities.

But know, that you haven't even remotely come close to convincing me to buy into your grossly limited and archaic views. You missed your time. You're arguments might have held a little bit of clout back in the days of Newton and Spinoza. But in light of the knowledge of modern physics your stance is a complete joke. It has no merit at all.


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Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
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A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 13, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Minimalist - February 14, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Jackalope - February 14, 2012 at 12:39 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by padraic - February 14, 2012 at 1:16 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 1:19 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by KichigaiNeko - February 14, 2012 at 1:22 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Minimalist - February 14, 2012 at 2:02 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by KichigaiNeko - February 14, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by AthiestAtheist - February 14, 2012 at 1:29 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Jackalope - February 14, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by KichigaiNeko - February 14, 2012 at 1:31 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by padraic - February 14, 2012 at 4:42 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by leo-rcc - February 14, 2012 at 4:58 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by KichigaiNeko - February 14, 2012 at 5:06 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by LastPoet - February 14, 2012 at 7:16 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by KichigaiNeko - February 14, 2012 at 8:05 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by LastPoet - February 14, 2012 at 10:23 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Aardverk - February 14, 2012 at 11:01 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Doubting Thomas - February 14, 2012 at 11:56 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by KichigaiNeko - February 15, 2012 at 2:44 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Minimalist - February 14, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by LastPoet - February 14, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 14, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 14, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 14, 2012 at 4:50 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 15, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 15, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 15, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 15, 2012 at 8:34 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 16, 2012 at 3:15 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 16, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 16, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 16, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 17, 2012 at 7:06 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 17, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 17, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 18, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 18, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 18, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Anomalocaris - February 15, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 15, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Violet - February 14, 2012 at 2:13 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by LastPoet - February 14, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by LastPoet - February 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Violet - February 14, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Minimalist - February 14, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Violet - February 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by padraic - February 15, 2012 at 6:24 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 15, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 16, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Cosmic Ape - February 16, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Rusko - February 16, 2012 at 1:04 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Cosmic Ape - February 18, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 18, 2012 at 6:45 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Cosmic Ape - February 18, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 19, 2012 at 9:03 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 19, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 19, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 19, 2012 at 6:49 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by genkaus - February 20, 2012 at 4:01 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 18, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Cosmic Ape - February 19, 2012 at 12:33 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by KichigaiNeko - February 18, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 19, 2012 at 3:21 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by padraic - February 19, 2012 at 3:02 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by LastPoet - February 19, 2012 at 7:14 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Violet - February 19, 2012 at 9:14 am
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Violet - February 19, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Violet - February 19, 2012 at 7:30 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 19, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Violet - February 19, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: A Non-Violent Solution? - by Abracadabra - February 19, 2012 at 9:13 pm

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