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Knowing everything and allowing evil
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
(February 22, 2012 at 2:18 pm)Abracadabra Wrote:
(February 22, 2012 at 1:58 pm)chipan Wrote: I very well know its based on faith. Believing in the big bang and life from nonlife and evolution also requires faith.

So you chose to believe on faith that you are an extremely despicable person who is totally unworthy of your creator's love?

And you believe on pure faith that it's reasonable that your creator should have to have his son brutally beaten and nailed to a pole to pay for your disgusting unworthiness?

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To believe in the Big Band, and Evolution does not require me to believe that I'm a despicable unworthy person that would warrant having someone nailed to a pole to pay for my unworthiness.

Moreover, I'm actually quite well-educated in how science has discovered the truth of the age and evolution of the universe, and life on earth. So for me it's not a matter of "faith" at all, but instead it's a matter of "understanding" how we have come to know that these things are true.

The fables that you are supporting make absolutely no sense at all.

They also demand that I'm a despicable person who is unworthy of love.

I know for certain that this is a false claim. So there's really no need to even bother considering them further. They are clearly based on blatantly false accusations.

I feel extremely sorry for you that you believe that you are such a despicable person who is unworthy of love and that a God would have to have his son butchered and nailed to a pole to pay for your disgusting unworthiness.

That's truly sad Chipan.

I can't imagine what it must be like to be someone who actually believes they are that despicable and unworthy of love.

Woah back up. If you include all the bad you must include the good too. That I have a father in heaven who loves me and wants me to have a part in his kingdom. Who has a plan for my life that will let me make a difference in this dying world. That he loves me so much he sacrificed his son for my sins so I can go to heaven. It sounds a little better when you include the good with the bad. What would I say if I want to leave God? "I'm going to leave my hateful god and follow no one." big improvement....
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MysticKnight - February 3, 2012 at 12:15 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by AthiestAtheist - February 3, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Minimalist - February 3, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by KichigaiNeko - February 3, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 3, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Darwinian - February 3, 2012 at 4:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 3, 2012 at 8:03 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 3, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 3, 2012 at 1:46 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 3, 2012 at 6:15 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 3, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 3, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 3, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Minimalist - February 3, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 3, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 3, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 3, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 3, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 3, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 3, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 4, 2012 at 7:44 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 5, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 5, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 6, 2012 at 3:53 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 6, 2012 at 9:49 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 6, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 6, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 11, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2012 at 7:22 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 18, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 6, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 7, 2012 at 4:51 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 11, 2012 at 4:05 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 11, 2012 at 6:09 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 10:03 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 11, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 12, 2012 at 3:12 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 17, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 11, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 11, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 11, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Violet - February 13, 2012 at 4:07 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MysticKnight - February 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 13, 2012 at 8:34 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Violet - February 13, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 4:50 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by jason56 - February 17, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 17, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by jason56 - February 17, 2012 at 10:52 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 18, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Minimalist - February 17, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 18, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 20, 2012 at 6:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 20, 2012 at 7:14 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 20, 2012 at 8:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Tiberius - February 20, 2012 at 8:02 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MarkOfEnglandshire - February 20, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 21, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Modular Moog V - February 21, 2012 at 1:47 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 21, 2012 at 2:12 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 21, 2012 at 2:30 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2012 at 6:07 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 21, 2012 at 9:54 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by leo-rcc - February 25, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 21, 2012 at 1:52 am
Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2012 at 12:54 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 21, 2012 at 1:32 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 21, 2012 at 7:47 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 21, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 4:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 8:17 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 22, 2012 at 4:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 4:32 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - February 23, 2012 at 4:31 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 23, 2012 at 4:56 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - February 24, 2012 at 9:46 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 24, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 25, 2012 at 1:43 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 2:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 5, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 5, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by LastPoet - March 5, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 6, 2012 at 3:25 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 5:33 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 6, 2012 at 8:22 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 23, 2012 at 3:51 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 23, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 24, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by NoMoreFaith - February 23, 2012 at 8:48 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 23, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 23, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by KichigaiNeko - February 23, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 24, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 12:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 24, 2012 at 3:10 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 4:32 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by marx_2012 - February 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 24, 2012 at 10:41 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 25, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 25, 2012 at 3:14 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 3:43 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MysticKnight - February 25, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 25, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 25, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 26, 2012 at 2:14 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 26, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 10:45 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 11:36 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 12:09 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 27, 2012 at 4:06 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 11:31 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 27, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 7:03 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 28, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 28, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 28, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - March 1, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Knowing everything and allowing evil - by KichigaiNeko - March 2, 2012 at 6:36 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 9, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 10, 2012 at 3:39 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 12, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - March 6, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by black36 - March 10, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by black36 - March 10, 2012 at 12:56 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - March 10, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 12, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - March 13, 2012 at 1:37 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 13, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Some guy - March 13, 2012 at 3:48 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - March 14, 2012 at 3:08 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Some guy - March 14, 2012 at 3:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 14, 2012 at 5:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - March 14, 2012 at 4:50 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Some guy - March 14, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by NoMoreFaith - March 14, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 14, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by average - March 16, 2012 at 10:22 am

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