(February 22, 2012 at 2:38 pm)Abracadabra Wrote:(February 22, 2012 at 1:58 pm)chipan Wrote: Believing in the big bang and life from nonlife and evolution also requires faith.
By the way, what you said here is actually a lie created and perpetuated by religious zealots.
Both the Big Band and Evolution do not require faith. They are both supported by empirical evident that has been independently verified to be true by countless individual scientists and experiments.
You need to realize too that all of these scientist would have love to have shown and error in the data. Being able to show an error often means a Nobel Prize.
So scientists are trying real hard to find flaws in the empirical evidence. Yet no flaws have been found. The age and evolution of the universe, and life on Earth are empirical facts that truly be falsified.
So all you're doing is spreading Christian lies about what can actually be known and why there is a difference between empirical evidence and mere unsupportable beliefs in ancient superstitions.
For some reason Christians seem to feel that it's ok to lie for their faith-based religion. But lying is lying, and it's a lie to claim that the age of the universe, and evolution are merely faith-based beliefs.
That's simply an outright lie.
It's just a truly lame attempt by Christians to pull the rug out from under science in an effort to put their own unsupportable faith-based believe on an equal playing field.
It's Christian deceit and lies.
Oh really. Do you know as much as a scientist about evolution and cosmology? If no then you put your faith in them. Is there a proven spontaneous generation process? If not you trust it just happened.
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Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem