Knowing everything and allowing evil

[Abracadabra]

Woah back up. If you include all the bad you must include the good too. That I have a father in heaven who loves me and wants me to have a part in his kingdom. Who has a plan for my life that will let me make a difference in this dying world. That he loves me so much he sacrificed his son for my sins so I can go to heaven. It sounds a little better when you include the good with the bad. What would I say if I want to leave God? "I'm going to leave my hateful god and follow no one." big improvement....

What are you talking about?

You said it all right here:

That he loves me so much he sacrificed his son for my sins so I can go to heaven.

You are such an unworthy person that he has to sacrifice his son in an extremely brutal way to pay for your unworthiness?

That's what you must believe in order to place your 'faith' in this religion.

You must believe that you are ultimately unworthy of this God's love.

In short, you must believe that you are unworthy of love in general.

Otherwise there would be no need for God to have 'sacrificed' his son to save your unworthy butt.

It's mandatory in this religion that you are unworthy of this God's love.

That is where you must place your faith above all else.

Because if you don't have faith in your own unworthiness to be loved, then it would be utterly pretentious of you to accept that God had to sacrifice his son to pay for your unworthiness.

So this religion demands that you have faith in your own unworthiness to be loved before the religion can even begin to make any sense.

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Oh really. Do you know as much as a scientist about evolution and cosmology? If no then you put your faith in them.

Yes I am quite educated in the science. I can discuss evolution or cosmology with any scientist in those fields, and chances are extremely good that I would be well-versed on every topic that comes up, even many that are cutting-edge.

So clearly you are not?

So you're holding your ignorance and lack of education up as a reason why everyone should view the sciences as being merely faith-based beliefs?

That's pretty limiting. Why should everyone else be dependent upon your lack of education?

Is there a proven spontaneous generation process? If not you trust it just happened.

No there isn't, nor does there need to be.

That is totally irrelevant to what is actually known.

What is actually known is that life started billions of years ago as very simple-celled lifeforms, and gradually evolved to become more complex life forms.

There were obvious places where the evolutionary process really took off in an explosive way. And there are currently no solid theories as to precisely why that occurred either. But clearly it did occur millions of year ago. The dinosaurs alone lived for over 300 million years as a collection of similar species.

It wasn't until the dinosaurs died off that mammals were able to gain a foothold and evolve into primates and eventual into us. That we are very closely related to the Chimpanzees and have a common ancestor is well understood genetically.

It is all understandable if you're willing to take the time time study it.

But yes, I can see where it would all seem to be 'faith-based' to you being totally ignorant of why we know these things to be true.

None the less, you aren't required to believe that your a disgusting person unworthy of being loved on your own merit to understand these things.

The ancient Hebrew fables demand that I believe things about myself that I know for a fact are not true. So I'm living proof that the Hebrew fables are false. I don't even need to think about it much beyond that (although I most certainly have). In fact, the more I think about the Hebrew claims, the more absurd I realize they are.

They simply cannot be true. They make demands about me as an individual that I know for certain are false. So they are a total waste of time to consider any further.