RE: The burden of proof relating to conciousness, free choice and rationality
February 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm
[quote='Rhythm' pid='245104' dateline='1330279054']
[quote]You did rule out free will in your hypothetical. Maybe you didn't intend to? [/quote]
I ruled out free will in the current materialist ideological structure of science in its current paradigm. I believe that the nature of free will and conciousness are paramount to the structuralist creation of the universe in general. As can crudely be seen in the current perception of the nature of quantum physics. There is more than enough scientific evidence in quantum that when a concious entity perceives elements of reality, that that reality is then reorganised by the concious mind that perceives it. Taken to an ideological standpoint, that the current scientific methods cannot perceive, right now, we could theoretically extend these ideas to understand that the universe is the collection of concious entities, that are simultaneously creating physical reality at the same time. Put that in your pipe and some it!
[quote]Free will as defined by whom? I could define free will as the illusion of choice that is the effect of the vast number of variables that are too great for our minds to comprehend. We surely seem to be making choices (to us), but are we?[/quote]
The computer you are typing on only operates because of a vast number of variables that are too great for your mind to understand. Are you ready to personally except that you are bound by same physical variables of your computer?
[quote]You did rule out free will in your hypothetical. Maybe you didn't intend to? [/quote]
I ruled out free will in the current materialist ideological structure of science in its current paradigm. I believe that the nature of free will and conciousness are paramount to the structuralist creation of the universe in general. As can crudely be seen in the current perception of the nature of quantum physics. There is more than enough scientific evidence in quantum that when a concious entity perceives elements of reality, that that reality is then reorganised by the concious mind that perceives it. Taken to an ideological standpoint, that the current scientific methods cannot perceive, right now, we could theoretically extend these ideas to understand that the universe is the collection of concious entities, that are simultaneously creating physical reality at the same time. Put that in your pipe and some it!
[quote]Free will as defined by whom? I could define free will as the illusion of choice that is the effect of the vast number of variables that are too great for our minds to comprehend. We surely seem to be making choices (to us), but are we?[/quote]
The computer you are typing on only operates because of a vast number of variables that are too great for your mind to understand. Are you ready to personally except that you are bound by same physical variables of your computer?
