RE: The burden of proof relating to conciousness, free choice and rationality
February 29, 2012 at 10:46 pm
(This post was last modified: February 29, 2012 at 11:15 pm by marx_2012.)
Quote:[Challenge accepted and completed, I even went the extra mile for you Marx. I have never, nor do I now believe in anything even remotely approximating free will or free choice. So, that experiment has been run for a few decades in my case. Why was this supposed to be challenging btw? Was something amazing supposed to happen?
Challenge denied and opened my friend. Read the posts beyond yours. Free choice determines every concious element of our mind, without the nature of free choice how can you define your concious life from that of a plant? Free choice is more than just some philosophical argument that you can choose to deny by your choice. If I fired a firework in the air is it your choice to look up, or to not look up. Is it your choice to perceive the the specific elements of the world that you choose, if so are you choosing to perceive whatever elements of the world, that you choose to philosophically defend by your concious 'rationality'?
Quote:Speaking of the body's electromagnetic fields and your "aura" garbage, do compasses spin wildly when you hold them? If not why not?
Besides the physical nature of the brain, that stays exactly the same at the moment of death, what is the difference between a living brain and a dead brain? Electricity!
Quote:On that note, if every decision that could happen does happen in a parallel universe, than every single prediction of the future or a future choice ever made was absolutely correct. The trick becomes lining up your prediction with a specific parallel.
The problem of this theory is that it extends to the choices made by our body's by the fact that rationally atomic science is formed from quantum science. Therefore in this theory your choices are governed by infinite dimensions but so is everything else, therefore there 'rationally' has to be a universe where while I am typing this, I transformed into a blue monkey and shit on the queens head. By the fact that quantum mechanics overrides and creates the laws of atomic physics, and created infinite dimensions where anything is possible! Even a universe where my girlfriend doesn't whine at me any chance she gets!
(February 29, 2012 at 10:18 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Well, laying aside that I actually do know how a computer works (and laying aside that the way our computers work and the way our brain works is only superficially similar), yeah, I am. Will this be a one way exchange, or will you be answering any of the questions asked of you?
What questions do you want me to answer that I haven't already?
(February 29, 2012 at 10:18 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Well, laying aside that I actually do know how a computer works (and laying aside that the way our computers work and the way our brain works is only superficially similar), yeah, I am. Will this be a one way exchange, or will you be answering any of the questions asked of you?
So your computer perceives? As you do? Is it your computer answering these questions or you?
