RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 5, 2012 at 12:00 am
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 12:02 am by Voltair.)
First of all let me say that I am an atheist who is not 100% convinced of evolution because I have not studied it. However I suspect that it is most likely true partially because I seem to trust science on many other things etc. However I can be okay with it not being true without accepting the God theory.
The reason for this is having an alternate explanation for how things came about does not automatically make it valid even if all other "current" explanations disappeared. For example if you said the world was a cube and I said it was a triangle I am clearly wrong. However just because I am wrong does not make you right either, in fact we are both wrong. The Christian apologetic arguments such as Design, Morality, and Cause are POSSIBLE explanations for the phenomenon known as life in that they can't be proven false. The problem is all these arguments are is simple speculation/opinion. Something looks designed therefore it is? Not necessarily you still have to prove that it was in fact designed. Saying look how pretty the stars are! Does not provide anything other than your opinion/feelings on the matter.
Again I would like to ask how the Christian arguments do anymore than to suggest a possible explanation? As far as I can see they can't prove anything. So far all I have seen is people saying "Well it looks this way therefore it is, therefore God". As far as arguing from scripture itself one of the primary issues is the lack of contemporary historical sources. Now you may counter by saying we have other historical issues we accept on the same or less volumes of evidence. I will give you that but consider the difference here.
Those other historical accounts about various things in history may in fact be wrong. However Christianity is supposed to be backed up by the very creator of the universe. It also talks about things that we have NEVER witnessed to be a part of existence such as demons, miracles, supernatural appearances etc. Many Christian's today don't believe things work the same way as they used to and those that do often are led along by manipulative people such as Benny Hen who use slight of hand.
So we have a book that makes claims about things that don't appear to exist in reality. It also mentions supposedly historical events such as herod's great slaughter which is in NO other source. In addition it mentions 12 men going around doing miracles like Jesus did and doing it over a larger geographical area with again, no other source. So far I have seen very little evidence and a whole lot of speculation.
It doesn't matter whether or not someone has an alternate worldview, what matters is can you prove your own? Even if other people are being inconsistent in your eyes you saying "see you are as inconsistent as me by having faith" does not give you more credibility.
Now granted being religious supposedly gives you the right to faith while an atheist obviously does not. But faith in what? Is it simply blind faith based on nothing other than hope? If it is so baseless though do you simply just base it out of fear or is it something else? I have yet to see this solid evidence that proves the miraculous/unsupported historical claims of scripture as well.
The reason for this is having an alternate explanation for how things came about does not automatically make it valid even if all other "current" explanations disappeared. For example if you said the world was a cube and I said it was a triangle I am clearly wrong. However just because I am wrong does not make you right either, in fact we are both wrong. The Christian apologetic arguments such as Design, Morality, and Cause are POSSIBLE explanations for the phenomenon known as life in that they can't be proven false. The problem is all these arguments are is simple speculation/opinion. Something looks designed therefore it is? Not necessarily you still have to prove that it was in fact designed. Saying look how pretty the stars are! Does not provide anything other than your opinion/feelings on the matter.
Again I would like to ask how the Christian arguments do anymore than to suggest a possible explanation? As far as I can see they can't prove anything. So far all I have seen is people saying "Well it looks this way therefore it is, therefore God". As far as arguing from scripture itself one of the primary issues is the lack of contemporary historical sources. Now you may counter by saying we have other historical issues we accept on the same or less volumes of evidence. I will give you that but consider the difference here.
Those other historical accounts about various things in history may in fact be wrong. However Christianity is supposed to be backed up by the very creator of the universe. It also talks about things that we have NEVER witnessed to be a part of existence such as demons, miracles, supernatural appearances etc. Many Christian's today don't believe things work the same way as they used to and those that do often are led along by manipulative people such as Benny Hen who use slight of hand.
So we have a book that makes claims about things that don't appear to exist in reality. It also mentions supposedly historical events such as herod's great slaughter which is in NO other source. In addition it mentions 12 men going around doing miracles like Jesus did and doing it over a larger geographical area with again, no other source. So far I have seen very little evidence and a whole lot of speculation.
It doesn't matter whether or not someone has an alternate worldview, what matters is can you prove your own? Even if other people are being inconsistent in your eyes you saying "see you are as inconsistent as me by having faith" does not give you more credibility.
Now granted being religious supposedly gives you the right to faith while an atheist obviously does not. But faith in what? Is it simply blind faith based on nothing other than hope? If it is so baseless though do you simply just base it out of fear or is it something else? I have yet to see this solid evidence that proves the miraculous/unsupported historical claims of scripture as well.