RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 5, 2012 at 3:30 am
(March 5, 2012 at 1:58 am)chipan Wrote:(March 5, 2012 at 1:37 am)Voltair Wrote:(March 5, 2012 at 1:25 am)chipan Wrote: Faith is unproven ideas you believe.
If that is how faith is defined then how does faith have any value? What makes the Christian faith in God any more valid than the Hindu's faith in their gods, the Greek's faith, the Indian's faith in spiritualism/animism, the druidic faiths, the Chinese faith in their ancestors, and any other religious group? If this is the case how does Christian faith lead anyone closer to the truth? That would simply make it personal taste or desire or what you really want to be true. That does not lead anyone to truth.
If Christianity is to be based on faith and faith is what you said it is then how can you really stand inside of Christianity? How is it more than simply a desire or a belief you have without substantiation? If you can't substantiate it then what still causes you to believe? Is it something you desire or something that you fear or both?
This is a very good point, but there are reasons that I believe in my faith. I have seen God work in my life. He has answered all my prayers. He has worked in my life giving me things I need before I even ask. He is a guide to my life and I will never abandon my guide to follow no one and see my life go into chaos. You may not accept this for yourself but it's enough for me to accept it.
Chipan I am a very recently deconverted Christian. I would like to talk with you more about the idea of God working in your life and I completely understand the idea of being worried about going into chaos.
First of all you mention God answering all of your prayers. I assume by this you mean he either says yes or no. However how do you know that God is answering the prayers rather than things/opportunities in your life presenting themselves etc? How do know it is not by your own hand and others that your prayers were answered instead of by God's? I am not saying that it is impossible that God answered your prayers but rather how do you know that it was him? For example I could pray that God helps me find a job after college and lets say I find one. Was it God at work or was it myself and others doing the necessary research/preparation?
You also mention him giving you things that you need even before you ask. I was wondering if you could perhaps provide a specific example of this as I think it would be easier to talk about.
As far as the life going into chaos I know exactly what you mean. When I was a Christian I thought that my true sole purpose was to serve God and bring others to him. I obviously was not working as hard as I should but was planning on doing something to the best of my ability to seek and save those who I saw as lost. After de-converting I lost that sense of purpose and it was a bit of a crash. It didn't destroy me completely though but I was... a bit dazed. I went through days where I thought I had a better grip on what my purpose was etc and other days where I despaired more. I also was at first a bit angry etc and was all out for trying to aggressively deconvert people. Since then I have calmed down quite a bit but there was a transition period.
Even today, soon to be 8 months into my atheism, I still struggle with that idea at times. I have come to learn/accept the idea that I do not have a defined purpose and that I must make my own. This idea is still a bit fresh and new to me but I am coming to accept it a lot more. I am actually quite at peace in a lot of ways and I don't feel myself spiraling into this chaos. Funny enough I even spoke of how terrible of a person I would be if I was an atheist a couple of months prior to my own deconversion.
If you would like Chipan we could continue this conversation over private messages.