RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 5, 2012 at 3:02 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2012 at 3:08 pm by Zenith.)
I have returned. Wow! I didn't think I would.
Anyway, I'm going to skip all the discussion you guys have had until here and just give my answer to the questions of the first post and the topic.
Ignorance can be beautiful. And I believe some / many people prefer to live their life saying to themselves "If I don't think about THAT, then it doesn't exist" (THAT = "what if the Bible was simply the invention of men", "what if there is no caring God out there?", etc.)
If you say "why do christians stay in their churches?", it's indoctrination. And, one of the most awful things about this indoctrination is that one cand hardly recover from it, once he has been indoctrinated - and now, the longer he stays, the stronger the bond becomes.
The environment and the people around have perhaps the strongest effect: one man is much more likely to give up Christianity if he's remained the only theist in the country, but if 95% of the population of the country is religious, for instance, he is 99.99% likely to remain with them. As about the local church, that's just like a disease, where everyone of them is infecting the others (mental bond, influencing each other, keeping an eye for what the others do and say and taking action), so that no one has the chance to get healed.
Also, I believe the age matters: you can expect a 20 years old man to leave christianity, but a 60 years old man who's been for at least 10 years a christian, in 'faith', I don't think he has any chance.
As about my feeling towards them, I don't hate them, and I don't despise them for being what they are. I actually feel sorry for them. They are mere victims, though many of them being aggressors too (e.g. hateful, despising the others), people who have not been educated (or, better said, have been educated in the wrong direction), who have not been taught to think, to use their minds, but perhaps, on the contrary, to believe all they're being said without thinking. I believe we would have been just like them, if we had been given the 'proper' bad education and had lived in the 'proper' environment since we were 2 years old children, and even now lived in that environment.
But, if we're talking about what Christians see appealing about Christianity, I think it's Jesus. While to many others it's Virgin Mary, while still to many others, the Holy Father among us - the Catholic Pope.
P.S. I hope you missed me.
Anyway, I'm going to skip all the discussion you guys have had until here and just give my answer to the questions of the first post and the topic.
Quote:Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
Ignorance can be beautiful. And I believe some / many people prefer to live their life saying to themselves "If I don't think about THAT, then it doesn't exist" (THAT = "what if the Bible was simply the invention of men", "what if there is no caring God out there?", etc.)
Quote:Going to church always bored me to death as a child.You've missed the most important things that are being preached in the sermons: how the people gathering there are the elect, the special, God's chosen, how they are righteous and holy and "saint" while the others are wretched, evil, unworthy; how they are superior to the others, how they are the soldiers of God through which God wins the war against Satan, etc. And people enjoy a lot being told that they are superior, the elect, the heroes, etc., which many times goes as "without you actually doing anything, just come to the church". The same way as racist people enjoy being told how intelligent and worthy they are, and how stupid and unworthy the black people are.
The sermons are normally boring and hymns suck.
Quote:Couldn't they play some more exciting music?Some do.
Quote:Also the image of the God that the Bible portrays is that of a bloodthirsty and vain maniac not a loving god.Wrong. The image of God that Bible portrays is in different ways, depending on the book / place you read. If you haven't noticed, those so joyful about God's grace and mercy and kindness read mostly the nicest parts Jesus says about God and the nice things Jesus does. I don't think there are christians nowadays that read in the church, from the bible, the sadistic parts where God orders the jews to butcher their enemies' pregnant women and children / babies, as they do not read the specific jewish parts of the bible (e.g. where God is portrayed as favoring the Jews, while not caring at all about the others).
I can't imagine why you's really want that God to be true.
Quote:I can understand why someone would want to believe in a religion like Norse Paganism where...People don't chose their religious beliefs like that. I'd also like to believe Norse Paganism, if I knew it'll make me feel happy, but deep inside I know it is not true. So it is quite hard for one to believe a religion just because he likes how it sounds.
If you say "why do christians stay in their churches?", it's indoctrination. And, one of the most awful things about this indoctrination is that one cand hardly recover from it, once he has been indoctrinated - and now, the longer he stays, the stronger the bond becomes.
The environment and the people around have perhaps the strongest effect: one man is much more likely to give up Christianity if he's remained the only theist in the country, but if 95% of the population of the country is religious, for instance, he is 99.99% likely to remain with them. As about the local church, that's just like a disease, where everyone of them is infecting the others (mental bond, influencing each other, keeping an eye for what the others do and say and taking action), so that no one has the chance to get healed.
Also, I believe the age matters: you can expect a 20 years old man to leave christianity, but a 60 years old man who's been for at least 10 years a christian, in 'faith', I don't think he has any chance.
As about my feeling towards them, I don't hate them, and I don't despise them for being what they are. I actually feel sorry for them. They are mere victims, though many of them being aggressors too (e.g. hateful, despising the others), people who have not been educated (or, better said, have been educated in the wrong direction), who have not been taught to think, to use their minds, but perhaps, on the contrary, to believe all they're being said without thinking. I believe we would have been just like them, if we had been given the 'proper' bad education and had lived in the 'proper' environment since we were 2 years old children, and even now lived in that environment.
Quote:The Christian heaven would suck anyway though as the religion is completely ascetic in things pleasurable.Sex and getting drunk and food are not the only pleasant things that one can crave for.
Quote:I just don't see what anyone finds appealing about Christianity.I don't see Christianity appealing.
But, if we're talking about what Christians see appealing about Christianity, I think it's Jesus. While to many others it's Virgin Mary, while still to many others, the Holy Father among us - the Catholic Pope.
P.S. I hope you missed me.
