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Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
(March 5, 2012 at 1:37 am)Voltair Wrote: You mentioned God wants us to seek him but what if we don't find him? The Bible says he who seeks shall find right? Well many people have sought and found quite the opposite of God. That is another strike against it in my mind. You may just say "well you weren't HONESTLY" seeking. Does the only honest seeking is the one that leads to the answer you believe to be true? That is a loaded phrase if that is true. You and I both know with relative certainty that God will not reveal himself directly. You believe so, I am guessing, because somehow that would make faith not valid. I have already shown before how that is an invalid argument so what argument is left? I am relatively certain God won't show because I am relatively certain the Christian God does not exist.

People who look but haven't found God were either mislead by others (sadly) or looked in the wrong place--themselves. The true God takes a humbling of the mind with the help of the Holy Spirit. In order to find God you need to take off your reason hat and take a leap of faith. We, as humans, look for religions that benefit us personally. Instead, close your eyes and ask Jesus to reveal himself to you. Read the Gospels. The combination of God's help and your application will show you the truth if you wish to find it. There is no single statement I can give you to convince you why all other worldly religions are wrong. You have to find it yourself, but I'll tell you now that it has nothing to do with your natural tendencies. All fake religions are law-oriented, meaning the follower has to earn their way to heaven by doing good works. It is our natural desire to want to earn our way, because then we can take the credit. Christianity is different, for Romans 3:23 says, "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." And Romans 6:23 adds, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life." Wages are what you earn. But since we have all sinned we can never do enough to reach heaven on our own. Knowing this, God came down in the form of a man. He paid the punishment for our sins on the cross. He died in our place. And that is another difference in Christianity. Not only does it promote relying on another's grace instead of your own strength, it shows how much God is seeking us. We are the lost sheep. He is the shepherd actively pursuing us. Ask a follower of any other religion and they'll say they are concerned with who else joins. The few beliefs that include gathering followers do so for selfish purposes. Mormons think they need to do it to be saved (and get their own planet). The Quran tells Muslims to conquer countries and make followers by force. Christian missionaries evangelize for as many people to know Christ's love as possible.

Logically, either one religion is right or they are all wrong. There is only one truth and naturally people create all kinds of other ‘pseudo-truths’ to win fame and money. Even atheists believe their atheism is the only truth. To say we should dismiss all religions because there are so many to choose from is like saying science has many theories for one phenomenon so they must all be wrong.

Look at the founder of any major religion and examine their motives. Muhammad gained fame and power through war, as well as the right to his followers' wives. Hinduism makes a caste system with priests at the top. Every faith has a selfish motive behind it but Christianity. All but one of the Christian apostles were martyred, and many more lost or feared for their lives. Instead of creating a system where one group of people is more powerful or influential, the Bible calls for a brotherhood of equals who work as the "body of Christ" to spread Jesus' love and news of the resurrection. Philosophically, thinkers have a hard time reasoning how a cruel God could create such beauty in creation and why we still exist in a balance of goodness and sin, as well as how a group of gods could function together to produce an operating world with one moral code. That leaves a single, loving God, and Christians call him Jesus.

Quote:It was good enough for him to demonstrate his power at mount Carmel, Egypt, the Red Sea, the many battles of the Israelites, Jerusalem, roughly 1980 years ago, etc but its not good for him to now? So the ancient people get ABSOLUTE knowledge of his existence and we get a book written by MEN who were supposedly inspired. A book with a questionable history and poor extra-biblical support for many of its claims. I really don't see how it makes any sense whatsoever to give the more superstitious people of the past more proof than the more skeptical people of today. That seems quite foolish but I guess as the Bible says the wisdom of God is foolishness to man?

Even with the miraculous signs, many people didn't believe. All spiritual forces were more visible then, including Satan's, making it more difficult to discern between the two. God doesn't currently do obvious miracles because he believes we have enough to go on as it is. He created nature; he doesn't have to fight it to accomplish his will. He also has a new way of communicating-- the Holy Spirit. Before Christ, only prophets spoke out about God. Now God's spirit is in everyone, and we are able to witness to nonbelievers using the words he gives us. We are no longer restricted to learning from prophets and miraculous signs, but from every other Christian on earth. In addition to this, we have a full completed Bible in most every house. Back then that had a few scrolls written by the prophets, and the Torah. Some would argue it is easier to believe now. Whether that's true or not does not matter. What matters is we have enough. God is seeking us. Seek him back, and you'll find the evidence more overwhelming than you ever imagined.

Quote:I really don't see how it makes any sense whatsoever to give the more superstitious people of the past more proof than the more skeptical people of today.

And what would you say if you wrote a diary about your flat tire becoming full (because of a pump you don't mention), and people 2000 years from today said, "That doesn't make sense. He must have made it up." Who are we to presume we know better than the people who actually lived in the time of Christ? Are we going to call all the 1st century Christians fooled by something that happened right under their noses? The number of converts must have exploded for a reason, and it couldn't have been because of a long-developed legend.
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance - by Undeceived - March 5, 2012 at 7:52 pm

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