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The Evidence Required Is?
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RE: The Evidence Required Is?
(March 2, 2012 at 10:32 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: What kind of evidence or proof would it take for you to believe in deity?
Extraordinary evidence for the extraordinary claim, obviously. Which is virtually impossible for most theists to meet their obligation and simply present, because:
a) They haven't defined the "god" they want to argue for properly or presented a clear positive ontology of it;
b) They don't understand how the burden of proof works in either a philosophic or scientific context;
c) They can't comprehend how disbelief in any given claim regarding the supernatural, until proven true, is the default position;
d) They don't care whether their beliefs are true or not, so long as they're comforting and make as many appeals to emotion as possible.


Quote:Some say belief in deity is not scientific in the sense of not being falsifiable. But can't something be true even if it isn't falsifiable.
Your view of scientific method is... incomplete. Theists have not even presented a theory for existence of deities or that reality was created by deities, they barely have a hypothesis. Science is interested in deducing predictions and repeatability from explanations of reality, so deities, like ghosts and fairies, have no explanatory power, at all.


Quote:How can you prove that other people are self-aware?
What does this have to do with god claims?


Quote:If a computer passed the Turing test could you prove that it was or was not conscious? Etc.
Again, what does this have to do with god claims?
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The Evidence Required Is? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 2, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: The Evidence Required Is? - by helmespc - March 3, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: The Evidence Required Is? - by Bgood - March 3, 2012 at 4:50 am
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RE: The Evidence Required Is? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 3, 2012 at 12:13 pm
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RE: The Evidence Required Is? - by Minimalist - March 3, 2012 at 12:20 pm
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