(August 6, 2009 at 6:46 pm)chatpilot Wrote: Homosexuality is natural to a homosexual and how you like to have sex whether it's oral,anal,gay hetero is no ones business but your own.To say that homosexuality is an abomination comes straight out of your bigoted gods book of hate.
I never said it was an abomination. Never even tied it into any religious discourse.
I just don't think it's right. Personal opinion.
I once had an erection, whilst sitting on a bus, due to the vibrations of the engine...does that make me a busosexual. Should I hang around bus shelters and wait for others like me so we can have a busosexual orgy to satisfy my desire.
Quote:But honestly, if you bothered to research the topic it's widely accepted that being homosexual is a core part of a person's identity
That's just bull, our sexual urges are dumb instincts that play no role in the formation of our identity, in healthy individuals. Only in a maladjusted individual does development become arrested at the sexual level. The Freudian belief that sexuality was the core of a persons identity grew out of favour over 50 years ago, now most psychologists relegate sexuality to a phase of development in childhood, naught much more than that. Social development is the key concept now.
Quote:thus it occurs naturally and thus there's nothing wrong with it.
Wisdom teeth are natural, they still hurt like a bitch and I got them pulled out.
Quote:I, in fact, have already written a long winded post explaining how homosexuality occurs naturally, maybe you should actually read it?
It occurs, I can look at gay porn and be aroused. Never heard of an animal choosing, operative word is choosing, a same-sex mate or life-partner when a member of the opposite sex is available. A few monkeys giving eachother handjobs is no justification for giving up your social responsibility to find a same-sex lifepartner and raise a family of children that will grow up to be productive and moral citizens.
Homosexuality, as I define it, is a lifestyle. I should have defined my understanding of Homosexuality first. Homosexual behaviours, as opposed to lifestyle, are natural and harmless really. The lifestyle on the other hand, it may be un-pc to say this, is a social maladaption and developmental disorder....in my opinion of course.
Quote:Guardian: US researchers find evidence that homosexuality linked to genetics
Interesting article, I liked this passage,
Quote:One prominent psychiatrist, Dr Robert Spitzer of Columbia University, found controversial evidence that therapy can cause some gay people to change to a heterosexual orientation,
And this,
Quote:While sexual behaviour may be chosen, the preponderance of researchers say attraction is dictated by biology, with no demonstrated contribution from social factors such as parenting or other factors after birth.
Being attracted to a member of the same sex is relatively harmless, even engaging in some homsexual acts. But the lifestyle, the behaviour, the social effect of homosexuality is destructive.
As I said, I can watch gay porn and be arouse. I can watch beastiality too and sure enough, the little solider stands to attention. I could even suck a guys dick, and even make myself enjoy it. But I choose not too. My sexuality is all-encompassing, if it moves.....heck, it doesn't need to move, all hat's needed is a hole of phallic shaped object. Our impulses are that simple.
Quote:The likelihood that if one identical twin is gay, the other will be also be gay is much higher than the "concordance" of homosexuality between fraternal twins, indicating that genes play a role in sexual orientation, but are not the entire cause.
Orientation, not a biologically determined chain making you suck any and every dick you can possibly find.
One thing...where are the females in these studies? Kyu, can you answer that? I've seen all the "evidence" for the role biology has to play in male homosexuality, what about the females?
Quote:Compared to straight men, gay men are more likely to be left-handed, to be the younger siblings of older brothers, and to have hair that whorls in a counterclockwise direction.
Quote:"In the past decade, I think the pendulum has swung more toward biological theory and biological causes," said Richard Lippa, a psychology professor at California State University-Fullerton, who has studied hair patterns and other biological traits in gay men.
Quote:Evidence of that, said Michael Bailey, a professor of psychology at Northwestern University in Illinois, comes from studies of genetically male infants born with malformed or ambiguous genitals.
Quote:Researchers are eagerly awaiting a DNA study of male siblings with at least one gay brother by Bailey and other scientists at Northwestern University due in early 2009
Quote:By researching 800 sets of brothersNo sisters?
Quote:the Northwestern study is searching for the specific genes that influence some brothers to be gay and others to be heterosexual.
Quote:Women may have more fluidity of sexual expression than men, but that doesn't mean they don't have a specific sexual orientation, said Lisa Diamond, a professor of psychology and gender studies at the University of Utah who studies female sexual orientation.
One explanation is that women's sexual behaviour is driven more by relationships.
HAHA, bullshit. They've got no evidence that female homosexuality is biological so they tap into the old stereotypes of women....they don't like sex, they want relationships. Please.
Quote:For some women, "your sexual orientation does not provide the last word on the sorts of behaviours and identities you might experience in your lifetime," Diamond said.
But it does for men?
Quote:"Some lesbian women are predominantly attracted to women, but some of them have found themselves becoming incredibly close to their best male friends, sometimes having sex with them. It does not make them straight. It's not, since you had a one-night stand with your male friend, that you can choose to become straight."
Really....is this what we're calling science these days?
You see, it's not all set in stone. The scientific community needs to grow some balls and state facts, not pander to a bunch of raging queers.
Quote:No it's not and quit calling me shirley!
Well at least someones got a sense of humour.