RE: Bible contradictions?
March 7, 2012 at 5:02 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2012 at 5:19 pm by Undeceived.)
(March 7, 2012 at 2:37 pm)Voltair Wrote: In short I believe that the Bible has a major contradiction with the portrayal of God:
1. God is all loving yet seeks what he wants aka his own glory/praise and worship. He also is willing to create/setup a situation where many suffer so he can enjoy the good pleasurable company of a few of his chosen.
2. God is prone to outbursts and mass killings + the orderings of genocides in the Old Testament. Yet this God is also seen as all loving?
3. God wants no man to perish/go to Hell but is ultimately responsible for the system that causes this. God being all knowing/all powerful makes it unnecessary for the sin/Hell system to exist.
4. I didn't mention this earlier but, God in a sense sacrificed himself to satisfy his OWN wrath that he CHOSE to have. Why did he have to sacrifice to himself? That seems quite illogical, he could have made the decision himself. Again saying that it is just that there is sacrifice doesn't really make sense because you would have to prove that this is intrinsically true.
These are great questions. We cannot completely understand all that God does; that would be like trying to guess the end of a 3 part play while stuck in part 2. Here's my best:
1. People make this objection on the usually-correct premise that no one deserves worship. That's true for humans, but God is no flawed person. He deserves glory not just because he made us but because he loves us unconditionally. We find it hard to worship imperfect people, but remember when you had your first girlfriend/boyfriend? You thought they were perfect and you worshiped them for it. Now imagine if you knew God was perfect and owed him your life. When someone loves you, you want to love them back. Jesus showed his love when he washed his disciples feet, as a servant would do. Then he died for us. God made us with us in mind, not just himself. We get to live in eternal happiness if we choose to. Why are we here at all? God hasn't revealed the full reason yet. But if we understand this is the only way he could have created us (see 3.), and if we know the way out (John 3:16), we have enough to go on.
2. God made their lives, he can take them away. Jesus had to come into Israel in order to live and die for everyone's sins. The people who perished still get their choice of eternal life or eternal agony (far longer than 60 years), and they wouldn't have without Jesus.
3. Create your own utopian world. What freedoms would you give it inhabitants? Would you let them lie around all day and pluck fruit off the grass? Say one wants a better part of the grass with more food. Would you let him murder another, or would you put a barrier between them? Would you let them lie or steal? Every time they lie and steal, resentment grows until they all hate each other and aren't happy at all. The only way to prevent this is to cut parts in their brains that would allow them to think of such actions. Every time you make the world more perfect you have to take away a freedom. Sin was inevitable in Eden. Satan tempted Eve's free-thinking selfish side. If he didn't do it then, a greedy thought would have occurred to her later. Jesus said, "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak," meaning our humanity cripples us. Jesus told the disciples not to fall asleep but their own bodies tempted them to anyway. That's why we are more susceptible to sin than God, even though it has always been around. Good and evil are intrinsic. You can't eliminate one without destroying all critical thought. Sin is an psychological option, not a natural force. Its potential has existed as long as God has, which is forever.
4. For us to truly love him, we needed free will. A robot programmed to obey does not love. God was willing to create us anyway, knowing he would have to sacrifice himself for his creation to live eternity with him.