(March 9, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Werewolff Wrote: They have something in common with them namely that they share some (not all) beliefs, but that has nothing to do with it.
It has EVERYTHING to do with it and I went into some poetic detail as to why it is the case.
When the catholic church bans condoms and causes untold suffering in africa that outweighs their charity efforts, every catholic shares responsibility for that.
When Muslims kill because of perceived insult to their imaginary friend, every muslim shares responsibility for it with their damned silence.
When christians cause a gay man to commit suicide because of the guilt and hatred he is exposed to. Every christian shares in that blame.
You're talking about bad things that are irrelevant to the religion, and once again, ignore the evils done in the name of religion which shares its responsibility with the moderates who claim to hold the same beliefs (maybe not all).
Defend theism and theists from a position that it is in any way necessary and the injustices performed in GODS name has its place in the modern world, and this has potential for an interesting exchange of ideas.
I understand that your wife is theist, and your story of meeting her was beautiful, and I'm sure she is wonderful. But I see no evidence of a Theistic plus argued yet, rather unsubstantiated statements that "oh but people do bad things, the reason they do bad things doesn't matter."
The truth is, it does. Your reasoning for evil and the passive support of those who claim your religion as the bedrock for it, absolutely does.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm