(March 9, 2012 at 8:34 pm)Werewolff Wrote: I guess the most important thing I could say right now is that to defeat evil (I don't like using that word but that's what we're talking about), all good people must stand together against it. Atheist and theist. Put aside your differences and deal with what needs dealing with in a constructive way. Hasn't it ever occurred to you that some of these bad religious people do what they do partly in order to divide the rest of us? I would feel like such a mug if I fell for that.
No argument here. I don't object to theism, I'm not a militant anti-theist, but I am a weak anti-theist. The sooner the moderates realise that agnostic atheism is in their corner more than fundamentalism the better.
Quote:Another point. Let's say that there's a person who believes in god. Then they believe in Jesus. Then they believe that he was the son of god. Then they start going to church. Then they start to believe a few other things in the bible. And so on and so forth. At what point do they begin to share the responsibility with bad religious people? And what if they are not silent about those bad people? Assuming guilt by association (in terms of sharing some views) is not constructive.
As soon as they label themselves in the same overgroup as christian or muslim they do.
Assuming guilt by association is not constructive. Let me ask. At what point do you take responsibility for allowing them to take your faith in vain then?
I apologise if I do not answer any further today, alcohol and poker with my darling wife takes precedence, but I'm glad I've incited you to state an opinion.
Let's have a hug instead just now then

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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm