RE: Bible contradictions?
March 9, 2012 at 10:43 pm
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2012 at 10:44 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(March 9, 2012 at 3:38 pm)Valdyr Wrote: ...anything unchanging is atemporal. We cannot conclude that there is an "outside" of time....
Does this exclude the possibility of real things whose attributes are not contingent upon time or change?
(March 9, 2012 at 3:38 pm)Valdyr Wrote: Furthermore, God being atemporal makes the notion even more incoherent. How can there be an atemporal agency? How could god have "created" the world, if creation is an event and is therefore temporal...
You have correctly pointed out one of the first problems with "creation ex nihilo" with respect to efficient cause.
(March 9, 2012 at 3:38 pm)Valdyr Wrote: If the universe is "all there is" in the strong, metaphysical sense, then it doesn't need a cause.
Agreed. Suppose you define the Cosmos like Sagan did as "all that is, was or ever will be." Does your understanding of the "strong metaphysical sense" include only physical reality? Can the Cosmos include things on which physical reality depends but which in themselves are distinguishable from physical reality? Mathematics and logic for example.
