(March 11, 2012 at 8:52 am)ThomM Wrote: In short I believe that the Bible has a major contradiction with the portrayal of God:
Actually - the main god of the bible (THERE are several in the bible) - cannot be true - because the claim of Almighty and the claim of ALL Knowing cannot simultaneously be true.
IF a god is all knowing - then there is ONLY ONE possible outcome to all situations - the one the god knows - and NONE other. Obviously - for the god to be all knowing - you would NOT be able to do something that the god did not know - and NEITHER could the god- eliminating almighty.
IF what the god knows is that you are going to be evil - YOU cannot choose to be good. THE idea of freedom of choice cannot be true as well - and without choice - personal responsibility is also gone.
Obviously - this god is a human creation - as were all others - and the humans who defined the god - simply added more and more claims to make their god better than all the others. What they forgot to do it check to see if their claims contradict each other - or can be true - based on other claims - which is often NOT THE CASE.
Interesting points. So you're saying that knowledge = control? It's true that God had the choice to create us, knowing we would or would not believe, but we still make the decision. Knowing what a person would choose is not the same as deciding it for them. God, being our creator, has motives too complex for us to understand. It's like trying to guess the end of the play while in part 1, or a computer trying to understand the human brain. The created is always less complex than the creator, as a clay figurine is less detailed than the sculptor. Just because human logic makes God seem impossible does not mean He does not exist. In fact, it might make more sense to think that if the Bible were fabricated the writers would have made God more logical since they'd actually have control over His attributes.
1 Corinthians 1:20-25 says:
20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.