(March 15, 2012 at 12:19 pm)Chuck Wrote: You might as condense that to "Modern medicine does the healing, God does the shitting"
Unless you invoke God to help out, in which case he likes to fuck with you by killing off the object of your prayer.
Source: Templeton Foundation Study into Prayer and Recovery, Templeton Foundation, Time Magazine(PDF).
Those that expected prayer AND received it had the greatest number of complications.
I do however respect Templetons honesty in publishing those results to be examined without trying to "fiddle" or deny the results like certain other faith based "scientific" institutions. (Heres looking at you Discovery Institute).
Obviously just standard deviation from the norm, but more to the point, no direct effect, so God now retreats to being "inspirational".
The God's "box".. gets smaller and smaller.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm