RE: Bible contradictions?
March 15, 2012 at 8:25 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2012 at 8:36 pm by NoMoreFaith.)
(March 15, 2012 at 7:09 pm)chipan Wrote: This is an example of how animals can offspring varieties of animals in not millions, but hundreds of years. How does this support your case?
It shows the creation of a new species by semi-artificial means. Natural Selection takes a lot longer for obvious reasons.
(March 15, 2012 at 7:09 pm)chipan Wrote: I would imagine a transitional form to show gradual change in species, not dramatic. There is no species that is between a horse and a giraffe.
No animal or fossil that has an intermediate neck. A horse can't give birth to a giraffe so where's the transition?
Firstly, Giraffes are not directly related to horses. How can you expect us to take you seriously if you do not even know that much about giraffes.
There are several transitions, Samotherium to Giraffa is the transition you are looking for.
You are absolutely right, there isn't an abundance of those fossils, but there aren't very many people looking either, it may come up, who knows.
Have you read anything on how the Giraffe neck at ALL.
The recurrant Laryngeal Nerve of the Giraffe is a nerve that goes from the brain to the larynx of the giraffe.
However... it goes via the chest, by the aorta and alllllllllll the way BACK up the neck.
Whys this? Not very smart, certainly not intelligent. However, what it does show is that the Giraffes neck has elongated over time. "Stretched" is an inaccurate word for it, but the most expressive.
This is consistent for the nerve in fish, its the most direct route, but once you have mammals, with necks, it becomes a redundant route.
If the ancestors of the giraffe didn't slowly naturally drift towards a long neck, but instead was a sudden change, or was actually designed, this nerve needs only go from brain to larynx.. not from underneath the heart.
Now this isn't absolute proof obviously, however.. what we have, including the actual evidence, is that where we have not found any fossils (they don't happen easily you know), but we can look at the genetic similarities and the shared traits. We can show the giraffe shares traits with its brothers and ancestors in the evolutionary tree.
So the question is; Why does it share the same traits, when it no longer makes sense for it to do so? The only reasonable answer is that came from a common ancestor.
Quote:Well conspiracy is a strong claim. Someone would need a lot of evidence to say there's conspiracy. I won't say there is but what would you consider all these hoaxes? How would you categorize them? In no other field has there been more hoaxes.
Biology is certainly the least certain of the natural sciences, and has far more error. However, science is self-correcting. Who do you think spotted this flaws and "hoaxes". It wasn't religious people. It was OTHER scientists.
So in your world view, scientists are exposing the errors, and occasional outright lie themselves, and correcting mistakes. Those that lie, are severely crippled in the scientific community.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm