(March 22, 2012 at 4:30 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: It falls flat as opposed to standing, because Christians interpret the New Testament differently.
For example, I had two conversions with two Christians; the first said God is a vengeful deity and that I'd burn in Hell for all eternity for being a non-believer; the second said God loves me no matter what and would ultimately find a way to reconcile with me no matter how long it would take.
When talking about Morality, one should never invoke belief in gods or lack thereof. Let's stop bastardizing words and lumping a pile of dogmatic dog mess with a something that should only ever be equated to ethics, not religion.
Right and the other thing I have always thought too is why wouldnt god just build the rewards for "good" actions right into the actions themselves. It just goes to show how non-self evident christian morality is that they would need to appeal to heaven and hell to bait people into obeying their rules. Good philosophy has contained with in it its own logic external to claims of supernatural justification.
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." -Friedrich Nietzsche
"All thinking men are atheists." -Ernest Hemmingway
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire
"All thinking men are atheists." -Ernest Hemmingway
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire