RE: Homosexuality
August 14, 2009 at 4:42 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2009 at 4:54 pm by Eilonnwy.)
(August 14, 2009 at 4:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You understand he was extremely agitated due to, what he says was racial abuse right? My point stands his logical points were not countered. He was driven to a point beyond reason (with those statements above), he didn't initiate it.
He did not have any logical points Fr0d0, but even if I agreed with you and he did...it doesn't matter. His comments that Adrian pointed out where the reason for his banning plus those in the other thread. Bigotry like that will not be tolerated whether he had a point to make before it or not. Now, it's over and done with. Drop it.
(August 14, 2009 at 3:45 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:(August 14, 2009 at 3:22 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: You do realize that just because you can't imagine it's true, does not mean it can't be possible. EvF you're committing a logical fallacy here.
No, because I'm not claiming that it's the case just because I can't imagine it. No such implication was intended. I'm well aware of the fallacy of The Argument from Personal Incredulity. I just say that I can't imagine it yes - And what I'm trying to understand is how it can be different for others.
Quote:The fact remains that gay men have married and had children. Historically they have married women to keep the status quo.
How do you know they're gay if they're marrying and having children? That's what I'm wondering.
I can see how they could easily be frustrated because they prefer men. But I can't imagine how they could have sex with the opposite sex willingly, without having any feelings for them. Because this isn't all nuts and bolts (Unless they're asexual or something as I said, which I think means - not having any sexual feelings whatsoever?).
I can't imagine it - so I want to understand how it can be otherwise. I'm not claiming that I'm right because I can't imagine it. That would, indeed, be a fallacy (and a very pathetic one at that).
Quote:This is a fact, so your inability to imagine it doesn't mean it can't be true.
Indeed and I didn't claim that. And no such implication was intended as you seem to think it was.
EvF
Because you can be aroused with the right stimulus even if you're not attracted to that person.
And how do I know Gay men have been married? Because guys come out all the time.
http://gaylife.about.com/od/lovesexadvic...arried.htm
http://gaylife.about.com/od/gaysexadvice...tation.htm
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin
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