RE: There Is No God
April 13, 2012 at 1:18 am
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2012 at 1:24 am by Drich.)
(March 18, 2012 at 6:35 am)Phil Wrote: Here is some interesting food for thought for our current influx of fundamentalists.
1 John 4:8
God is love
1 Corinthians 13:4
Love is not jealous
Exodus 20:4-5
I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God
Bible says there is no god, film at 11.
I feel like the atheist Ray Comfort so I will say checkmate Christians
Do you think "fundies" don't have bibles of their own?
1co 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1john4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
Exo 20:4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,
Two things just in the first context of scripture puts your little idea of a "check mate in it's place. and 2 nowhere in scripture does it say the Love of God has no boundaries.
Agreed that 1co 13 describes a boundless love, but no where in the passages you left does it say God's love is boundless. Matter of fact contrary to popular atheistic belief God's Love has very strict limitations and an expiration date.
(March 18, 2012 at 6:42 am)Phil Wrote:(March 18, 2012 at 6:41 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: Just to play devils advocate.
The full phrase is Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. (depending on the translation).
Indicating God is supposedly present in the concept of Love rather than God is loving himself.
Love is not Jealous, which means if you are Jealous you are not in Love, and God is therefore not present.
" for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,"
What we actually prove, is not so much the nonexistence of God, given the exemption of the first part of God is Love, but you do prove that God does NOT love you.
Then I will tell you as I will tell them, stop making the asinine claim that god is love. In any event, if they can't deal with their own book being used against them, fuck em.
No, No God is indeed Love or what the Greeks defined as Agape, however that is not what you understand love to be. For you love in an ideal that has little to no boundaries, where as the Greeks defined love in one of four ways. Agape Love (Being one of the four ways) is tied to a covenant (Terms and conditions) however it is still translated into the word "love." The fault here (if their is any) is on the person who assumes the bible was written in English or at least thinks his understanding of English is preserved in the translation from the Koine Greek.
