Atheism leaves too much room for error.

[Kyuuketsuki]

How can it be incorrect ... it is simply a label, it carries no philosophy, has no value in and of itself, it just says what we are! The value, the philosophy comes from the underlying reasons that made us atheists.

Yes, you are correct, I guess. but you cannot know for sure if God exists or not. Not even the world's top scientists can make that claim. So, when I say atheism leaves too much room for error. You must ask yourself, could God possibly exist?

And no one that I know of is saying there absolutely is no god, what we are saying is there is no validatable evidence for a god (no more evidence than for the thousands of others gods invented, apparently, by mankind or indeed fro the facetious ones invented to ridicule the idea) and as such we will live our lives as if there is none because (in our view) it is stupid to do otherwise. IN essence YOU have to prove the existence of your god BEFORE we will accept it to be so.

Come again? You've shown what? Like hell you have! Biblical scripture can only be force fit to modern science just like I demonstrated to you with your pathetic claim that "let there be light" equated to the big bang.

How in the world can Biblical scripture fit into modern science, when the bible made the claim long before we discovered atoms. If anything, modern science is agreeing with scripture.

Rubbish ... you have a book written by a technological primitive people, it is not and never will be a science book. I'll consider accepting that your bible got it right WHEN (and only when) you demonstrate that your bible describes evolution, DNA, the periodic table, cosmology, rocket science, plate tectonics, gravity, geology, oceanography, quantum mechanics and more besides ... and before you go, "ah but... " let me make it plain ... I mean IN DETAIL (all of known science probably equates to several hundred extremely large libraries, your bible is ONE book).

Easily ... it's bollocks! It's also worth noting that "worlds" is not "universe" or even "stars" and that there is no suggestion that the process of stellar or planetary creation were in any way not visible processes.

Yes, when the Hebrews used the word "worlds", they were talking about the planets. God created the worlds with things that do not appear.

And you are INTERPRETING ... what the hell makes YOUR interpretation of your bible right and not mine? You interpret it as everything, I interpret it as an historic source and nothing more. You CANNOT prove you are right!

Rubbish ... you believe because you want to believe, you even force fit your bible scriptures to say what you want them to say!

Not true. I'm reading ancient texts, and I am also reading modern science. They both claim the universe was created by materials that cannot be seen. How is that forcing anything?

The bible is not now and never will be science ... grow up!

It is not factual; it is grossly misrepresenting both your scripture and science to claim that such a simplistic statement can equate to science.

God claimed he created everything with things that do not appear long before modern science come up with this discovery.

So fucking what? I claim I invented the nuclear bomb ... my claim is stronger than your god's ... at least I can be proven to exist!

There is no mention of hydrogen, helium, lithium., beryllium, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen fluorine or neon in your bible (to list just the first two rows of the periodic table and the lighter elements most likely to be produced first in the very early universe so no the claimed word of your god is not even within spitting distance of merest suggestion of accuracy.

Why would God get into strict details with his people? If you suggested hydogren, helium, carbon or nitrogen, they wouldn't have understood him. Those words didn't exist in ancient hebrew.

Then your bible is NOT science ... don't you get it yet? Learn some science!

More bollocks! Which fucking prophecies have been fulfilled? And not *in bible* ones please because they don't count!

The ancient city of Tyre shall never be rebuilt. Where is Tyre these days? Its underground, and a new city called "Sur" replaced it. God promised Tyre shall never exist ever again. Sure, the land exists, but it's not called Tyre anymore. Tyre is long gone underground. modern archaealogists prove this.

If your god said Tyre would never be rebuilt why does it exist now?

The fact is they didn't have the kind of knowledge you claim, all the available evidence indicates they were a technologically illiterate people in comparison to today's understanding of the universe.

You're correct. I never claimed the ancient hebrews were geniuses. But they did receive information from an intelligent being. Scientists and skeptics made a mockery of the bible when they read "the universe was prepared by invisible things". Skeptics believed that was utterly impossible. hmm?

An ancient being for which there is no fucking validatable evidence ... as far as any objective observer can tell, your god is fiction!

Kyu