(August 20, 2009 at 10:25 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: And no one that I know of is saying there absolutely is no god, what we are saying is there is no validatable evidence for a god (no more evidence than for the thousands of others gods invented, apparently, by mankind or indeed fro the facetious ones invented to ridicule the idea) and as such we will live our lives as if there is none because (in our view) it is stupid to do otherwise. IN essence YOU have to prove the existence of your god BEFORE we will accept it to be so.It's common knowledge that multiple gods cannot exist together, because "God" is the highest title known to man. How could there be several gods? That's like the United States having several Presidents. The Egyptians worshipped the Sun. We know the Sun is not a god. The Sumerians used to worship the Moon. We know the Moon is not a god. Science has debunked literally every ancient religion that predates Judaism/Christianity/Islam. The reason why these three religions rule the earth is because they cannot be refuted. It's virtually impossible to refute a supernatural deity.
Quote:Rubbish ... you have a book written by a technological primitive people, it is not and never will be a science book. I'll consider accepting that your bible got it right WHEN (and only when) you demonstrate that your bible describes evolution, DNA, the periodic table, cosmology, rocket science, plate tectonics, gravity, geology, oceanography, quantum mechanics and more besides ... and before you go, "ah but... " let me make it plain ... I mean IN DETAIL (all of known science probably equates to several hundred extremely large libraries, your bible is ONE book).The words, Evolution and rocket science didn't exist 3000 years ago. How do you expect a group of men to mention words that do not exist? Evolution is a modern term for the adaption of the enviroment. As for DNA, I do believe the bible says "there is life within blood".
Quote:And you are INTERPRETING ... what the hell makes YOUR interpretation of your bible right and not mine? You interpret it as everything, I interpret it as an historic source and nothing more. You CANNOT prove you are right!I'm not here to prove I'm right. I never said that. However, I am showing Bible verses that modern science agrees with.
Quote:The bible is not now and never will be science ... grow up!I never claimed the bible is a science book. Trust me, if God wanted to mention helium, gravity, energy and geology, he would have done so, but the people of that time era wouldn't have understood him.
"People will run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased" - Daniel 12:4
Quote:So fucking what? I claim I invented the nuclear bomb ... my claim is stronger than your god's ... at least I can be proven to exist!Well, if you wrote a book 3,000 years ago talking about Nuclear bombs, and 3,000 years later, mankind invents the nuclear bomb, then I would have to take your word for it.
Quote:Then your bible is NOT science ... don't you get it yet? Learn some science!I know about science. But science does not disprove God in any way. So, when you say, "Learn science", you are giving me the indication that the knowledge from science confirms there is no God. Untrue, and baseless claims.
Quote:If your god said Tyre would never be rebuilt why does it exist now?The ancient ruins of Tyre are underground. It was never rebuilt, as promised by God. Today "Sur" is on the land where Tyre once stood.
Quote:An ancient being for which there is no fucking validatable evidence ... as far as any objective observer can tell, your god is fiction!This is false since you cannot prove a universal negative. When you say God is fiction, all you are doing is speaking your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. You can claim God is fiction all day long, but that doesn't mean you're right. That shows that you have an opinion about the existence of God.
"We have no clue what mysterious force moves our constellations" - Albert Einstein
Now, before you get all defensive on me... I'm not claiming Einstein was Christian, but what I can prove is that even the world's most brilliant minds have no idea what mysterious force is beyond our grasp.