(April 22, 2012 at 5:42 pm)deciple Wrote: About weather hell is a literal or symbolic place the christian faith clearly desctibes it as a real physical place that is eternal seperation from God. It is my personal belief that those that go to hell were given the lifetime needed to make their decision about where they would choose to go. At the time of death whatever decision was made was the only decision that would have ever been made by that person. Even if given a million years on earth they would have still chosen to be apart from God. So God sends nobody to hell people choose to go there. The bible states that hell is seperation from god and also all good things come from god, so if god isnt there than nothing good is there either hence the flames and brimstone and whatnot. It even says that people in hell are still unrepentant so they still choose to be there as crazy as that sounds to me personally. So its not that is purposless torture as in trying to get information from sombody its just a destination that is arrived at by people with the perspective that heaven is hell.
Problem there of course is that as an atheist I don't believe that god or hell even exist. So I can't choose to go to a place I don't believe exists. Just as I haven't chosen to be apart from god. I don't believe in god to begin with. So the very statement that we chose that fate is untrue.
It's like me saying that you have chosen hel (yeah I spelt that right) instead of going to Valhalla and that you chose to be apart from Odin. But how can that be if you don't believe in such things?
If I end up in hell, it will be because I was sent there, not because I chose to go there. Just as if you ended up in Hades, you didn't chose to go there.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
