RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 22, 2012 at 6:20 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2012 at 6:25 pm by Jireh.)
(April 22, 2012 at 3:22 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Ok now pay attention, cause this is the big one that you people are always missing out on.
You would totally have a valid point about our morals being useless because they are subjective if it weren't for one massive glaring thing ...
The morals of Christians are absolutely no better than anyone elses ... making your whole point mute. When your priests stop molesting children, when your preachers stop getting arrested for embezzlement, when your missionaries stop raping the natives, when your parishioners stop cheating on their wives, beating their kids, and stealing from their neighbors you can talk to me about the problems with our subjective morality. Telling the world that we should fear our own moral code when there is no god telling us what right and wrong is - is just insulting. Especially when you consider the atrocities that come from the hands of Christians everywhere!
And by the way Hitler WAS a Christian and what good did his god-given "objective" morals do the world?? Well, if you're anti-Semitic, than Hitler did a great good didn't he? But yeah, for the rest of us, your god-given morals didn't do a damn thing! None!
you missed completely my point. Again : How can you say, Hitler was objectively wrong, in killing Jews, if he thought it was right ? Why should your opinion be more true, about what is wrong, and what is right, if God does not exist , than Hitlers perception of what is right, and what is wrong?
(April 22, 2012 at 5:07 pm)Watchman Wrote: how nice to see you here, Watchman. And - thanks for you introductory post.
How about you show your originality - and actually answer the issue of this topic ?
Oh Angelo ..... what for ?
You're forgetting ,I've seen your repertoire.
I know all your twisted , copied & pasted routines.
Plus you know I never knowingly feed trolls.
Oh ,and if your feeling talkative...
Can I ask
Is it your bunch involved in this....
"Scandal Rocks Pentecostal Church in Brazil
By Jan Rocha / London Observer Service
SAO PAULO, Brazil -- Ana Paula Monteiro was such a loyal contributor to the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God that she was awarded a diploma -- signed by "Mr. Jesus Christ." She says she has paid $12,000 in tithes and special offerings.
Last week, Monteiro went down to the Universal Church's largest temple in Sao Paulo and demanded her money back. A preacher told her: "Go and get it back from God."
Link:
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/...ndal.shtml
we know this " church " well. So what ?
(April 22, 2012 at 5:32 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: We are the result of the universe not the purpose of it.
And what is the cause of the universe ?
(April 22, 2012 at 6:20 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: I've simply rejected the claim that such a being exists.
So based on what have you rejected it ?
