(April 23, 2012 at 7:59 am)Ace Otana Wrote:With respect Ace, fr0d0 is correct, although his point is slightly badly worded. I don't think he means "evidence of you not believing in god", but rather "evidence of why you don't believe in god". This evidence isn't physical, it's logical (i.e. the arguments for atheism). It is justifiable to ask people to present evidence for why they don't believe in Odin or Thor, since the concepts of Odin and Thor are very real, and need answers.(April 23, 2012 at 7:51 am)fr0d0 Wrote: As an atheist, just as me as a theist, you should be able to present rational evidence of your stance. I couldn't defend 'theism' either - because it's too wide a subject. I only defend Christianity.
That's complete nonsense Fr0d0. Why would I need to show evidence for my lack of belief in god? It doesn't make any sense.
It's like me saying that you must show evidence that you don't believe in the god Odin or Thor or any other higher power or whatever.
Quote:I was an atheist long before I was even aware of the word. Atheism simply means without theism. It doesn't get any simpler than that. It really doesn't.Yes, you were an atheist long before you even knew about God, but that was passive atheism. You are now an active atheist, since you fully understand the concept of God, and still disbelieve. There are reasons for that, and those reasons are the evidence fr0d0 is talking about.
Besides, evidence for my stance which is atheism. A lack of theism, lack of belief in god. What evidence do you expect to see? What would that evidence prove?
My evidence is simply that I have never experienced God in any way that convinces me that he/she/it exists. There is no valid evidence I have come across that concludes undeniably that one exists. However, as an agnostic I admit that I do not know everything, and so my disbelief could be completely wrong. I also hold that since God is usually held as a supernatural being, it is impossible to measure or conclude anything about.
