RE: Communicating with Him
April 27, 2012 at 10:45 pm
(This post was last modified: April 27, 2012 at 10:56 pm by Godscreated.)
(April 27, 2012 at 12:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: Nothing, I am able to tell when God speaks to me, I try to always separate my emotional feelings from my spiritual experiences.
Wc Wrote:And how do you know its not Satan deceiving you?
Satan would not have me doing the good work of God, if he did then I would be a witness for the good work of God. Thus a witness for God and Satan would not like that.
Quote:Christians must be careful about what they desire and what God really wants.
Wc Wrote:Stripping yourselves of desires? You lot sound more like Buddhists to me.
You should read the letters of Paul, by the way I did not say anything about Christians stripping themselves of all desires.
Quote:One thing a Christian can count on, God will almost always put them into something they are not comfortable with, I know this from experience.
WC Wrote:Yeah maybe he's twat who likes putting people to the test? Or maybe he doesn't give two holy shits about you? You know, there's that possibility too.
He does put His people to the test, so what. He cares about His children very much, so no that's not a possibility. When God puts Christians into work that is uncomfortable for us He's teaching us that nothing is impossible with God. God shows us that He is giving us the ability to do things we though we could not. This is one way He proves Himself to us.
(April 27, 2012 at 6:22 pm)Mosrhun Wrote:(April 27, 2012 at 12:42 pm)Godschild Wrote:(April 26, 2012 at 10:31 pm)Mosrhun Wrote:(April 26, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Godschild Wrote:(April 26, 2012 at 5:13 pm)Mosrhun Wrote: I was baptist for 15 years. I "felt god's presence" plenty of times.
You couldn't have, to you He does not exist.
I thought I did. If you believe it enough you will feel it. You're delusional and you don't even know it. My grandfather is a pastor and so is my uncle. I "heard god" tell me to become a pastor as well and even preached a handful of sermons to my youth group.
I believe that you did experience an emotional something, I do not and did not deny that. What I said, is that for you it could not have been from God, because you do not believe in Him. Just because you have family members who are pastors, that is no reason for God to call you into the ministry. God will only call the faithful, and seeing as you have come to deny Him, well, don't you think an omniscient God would have known what your future held.
This is such a cop out. I could apply the same "logic" to an atheist turned theist. Bitch please.
There's no cop out here, you will have to explain why you believe it is.
(April 27, 2012 at 10:13 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:(April 27, 2012 at 10:11 pm)Godschild Wrote:(April 27, 2012 at 12:46 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:Godschild Wrote:Yes I can say they were not a true christian, when they relate their Christian experience was phony, just like you. To have been an authentic Christian means that even though you changed your position, you would not deny that Christ is who he says He is. The arrogance falls on you brother, I'm just relating the truth, if it bothers you then quit reading my post.This is the No True Scotsman fallacy again. Practically what you're saying is that a true Christian is one that will die a Christian. Is it also true that a true Christian's desires will be that of God's, that they will preach the Gospel through actions, that they will pray and also seek to better understand the Word (to name a few things)?
Yes mostly, as I said one could believe and then reject Christ yet not deny who He says He is. Yes, we should, but because of our humanity we fail more than we should.
What's the difference between "rejecting" Christ and "denying" what he claims?
A person could know that Christ was the Son of God and that through Him comes salvation, yet not accept what He did for them.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.