(May 8, 2012 at 5:11 am)Epimethean Wrote: You didn't read the entirety of the link I sent you, Drich.
In the bible itself, you are able philein Jesus, and you can agapan him, interchangeably. You are able to agapan your family and friends, and philein them-interchangeably. If you would have caught on to that, you would have understood why I mentioned the connection between Attic and Demotic Greek with Koine and Katharevousa in between as mediums of exchange. In Demotic Greek, the common word for love is agapoun, and in Attic, agape was actually a less powerful form of love than philos or eros. It was only when christians wanted to have a "special" kind of jesus love that they decided to claim that agape was special-especially as they sadly tried to divorce the eros, or physical love, from the text. Agapan basically means "to value or esteem" in ancient Greek and slowly becomes conflated with philein, which is a much more intense word. God is said to philein jesus rather than agapan him in John 5:20 and Jesus warns his followers in Matthew 10:37 that anyone who philon his family more than Jesus is not worthy of him.
Strongs Concordance states rather clearly regarding the relationship between philos and agape, that philos means
"to love, to have affection and regard of a very high order, not unlike agape and overlapping in meaning in some contexts"
You can go around trumpeting about the types of love, but the texts do not support it in any consistent way. This is just another instance of christians mucking about with things they know nothing about in trying to make special the contractual love they have for their god and he for them. Give it a fucking rest. You're as annoying-and out of touch-as the shyster who wrote this:
http://www.5lovelanguages.com/learn-the-...languages/
What you seemed to haved missed in that passage is that "Peter" was already a believer and had a relationship that allowed him to Love Christ to the fullest extent of his ablity to love no matter what that look like,( whether it be philia or Agape.) You however are not in such a position, as you have not accepted the Agape offered. Remember John 3:16. It is the gateway for the expressive ablity to Love God to the limits of your ablities. You can not simply disregaurd it just because you have derived an understanding found later on in the same book.
