RE: 27th of May protest of GM research
May 9, 2012 at 8:40 am
(This post was last modified: May 9, 2012 at 9:02 am by The Grand Nudger.)
People do that here as well. Vidalia Onions, Florida Orange Juice, etc. That doesn't actually mean that people can tell the difference, lol. It's called "branding". Sigh.
Differences in taste due to region have nothing to do with the crop in question. For example, the Vidalia Onions above became famous (Vidalia is a Granex Onion, commonly grown everywhere) due to large levels of sulfur in the soil in, you guessed it, Vidalia Georgia. The producers banded together and had the "Vidalia Onion Trademark Act" (I shit you not) passed. Nevertheless, any producer that dumps sulfur on his Granex onions will end up with a bulb that no human being could distinguish from the "real article". Again, the largest component oif what we percieve as a difference in taste between two of the same vegetables that come from different places are post production and logistics.
The US "considers" it, and we're a major producer. In fact, you'll find us at #1 for most commodities, and usually in the top 5 for those we don't completely dominate. Nevertheless we import more food than we grow, and export most of what comes out of our ground. If people decide they don't want increased yields, resistances, shelf-life, and flavor, or they decide that they don't want decreased fertility requirements, irrigation, and loss, that's no skin off anyone else's back Mehmet.
"All the farmers you know" need to take (or at least audit) a course in agribiz. They're losing money. If your oil is the cheapest it would make sense, but what the fuck are you doing producing the cheapest oil (and somehow I doubt the farmers you know are producing the cheapest oil) when you could be producing a crop with better profit margins (or courting a market for the same crop that afforded better profit margins)? Or maybe, just maybe, you don't actually know why they do what they do, they are competent producers, and you are simply ignorant of how their operations are run.

If this subject is anything more than a vehicle for your usual shit, I'd suggest an entry level textbook like
http://www.amazon.com/Principles-Agribus...im_sbs_b_2
I am honestly interested in what you seem to feel is wrong with GM crops. You've referenced tinfoil blockades, oppression of indivdual producers by large Ag Conglo's, none of this has anything to do with a GM crop. I know you imagine, for some reason, that there is just "something better" about the "local" varieties, but you'll have to be able to determine what this is if you want to hang your hat on it. "Many people believe there is a difference in taste" doesn't cut it, not just because many people can be wrong, but because studies have shown that they are. We overestimate ourselves, and our abilities.
Differences in taste due to region have nothing to do with the crop in question. For example, the Vidalia Onions above became famous (Vidalia is a Granex Onion, commonly grown everywhere) due to large levels of sulfur in the soil in, you guessed it, Vidalia Georgia. The producers banded together and had the "Vidalia Onion Trademark Act" (I shit you not) passed. Nevertheless, any producer that dumps sulfur on his Granex onions will end up with a bulb that no human being could distinguish from the "real article". Again, the largest component oif what we percieve as a difference in taste between two of the same vegetables that come from different places are post production and logistics.
The US "considers" it, and we're a major producer. In fact, you'll find us at #1 for most commodities, and usually in the top 5 for those we don't completely dominate. Nevertheless we import more food than we grow, and export most of what comes out of our ground. If people decide they don't want increased yields, resistances, shelf-life, and flavor, or they decide that they don't want decreased fertility requirements, irrigation, and loss, that's no skin off anyone else's back Mehmet.
"All the farmers you know" need to take (or at least audit) a course in agribiz. They're losing money. If your oil is the cheapest it would make sense, but what the fuck are you doing producing the cheapest oil (and somehow I doubt the farmers you know are producing the cheapest oil) when you could be producing a crop with better profit margins (or courting a market for the same crop that afforded better profit margins)? Or maybe, just maybe, you don't actually know why they do what they do, they are competent producers, and you are simply ignorant of how their operations are run.

If this subject is anything more than a vehicle for your usual shit, I'd suggest an entry level textbook like
http://www.amazon.com/Principles-Agribus...im_sbs_b_2
I am honestly interested in what you seem to feel is wrong with GM crops. You've referenced tinfoil blockades, oppression of indivdual producers by large Ag Conglo's, none of this has anything to do with a GM crop. I know you imagine, for some reason, that there is just "something better" about the "local" varieties, but you'll have to be able to determine what this is if you want to hang your hat on it. "Many people believe there is a difference in taste" doesn't cut it, not just because many people can be wrong, but because studies have shown that they are. We overestimate ourselves, and our abilities.
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